Adam is joined by his good friends Ami Kozak, Zach Grashin and Deepak Ramapriyan to discuss todays most relevant topics so listen in and see what everyone has to say about the legitimacy of conspiracies. Check it out, it will blow your mind!
Adam is joined by his good friends Ami Kozak, Zach Grashin and Deepak Ramapriyan to discuss todays most relevant topics so listen in and see what everyone has to say about the legitimacy of conspiracies. Check it out, it will blow your mind!
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Speaker 1
I'd like to welcome everybody to the Adam King show. I am Adam King, your host joined with the one and only Rock Breath. Rock. How you doing? It's been a long time since we've had our last show and I'm excited to be back. Yeah, I'm doing really good. Thanks. I'm. I'm glad that I'm back as well. What's the weather like on the East Coast?
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Speaker 1
Well, today.
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Speaker 2
Was really, really, really, really nice.
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Speaker 1
Couldn't ask for any better weather. 72 degrees. Perfect. Yeah, it's been about 75 here in Southern California. Perfect weather. Everything is great. No complaints. The news cycle has been quiet. Not so many things happening, which is good. And it's really unusual. They're building up. They're waiting. They're waiting to get a little closer to elections before they really dump zombie apocalypse on us.
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Speaker 1
You see that 60 minute with Joe Biden where he said what, inflation? It's only going up 3.1%. No, I didn't happen to see it, but I did see all the comments in regard to what he said. I wish we had a. I wish we had a regional idea. One, when he he was confused with the 1% that he was involved in.
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Speaker 1
Exactly. Exactly. He is that 1%. I'm going to throw up one meme for us really quick. Sure. To describe our economy. I never seen a better depiction of that than this. You. That's the way they. Me, everybody. But this is this is what America has become right now. It's a it's a it's a cesspool of absolute failing companies and billionaires as the president chastises his enemies.
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Speaker 1
Now, what? What a really nice guy. I love the press. What a schmuck, right? What a really filthy schmuck. Am I allowed to say a piece of shit? You could say whatever you want, man. Thank you. Well, you know, I just said it so well. On that note, I'm going to bring in our panel and we've got a great panel tonight full of comedians, musicians, entertainers, not less politics, more fun tonight.
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Speaker 1
How do you like that? I'm really looking forward to it. Have a great show. I'm right here if you need me. Thanks, Rock. I'll see you soon. Very good. Right. And as our panel slowly creeps in, we have. Joining us tonight all the way from New Jersey, the Holy Land, world famous impersonator, America's that guy. I don't even know which person to say that you're impersonating the most.
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Speaker 1
These days, it's either Gary Vaynerchuk or Jordan Peterson, but the list is endless. I think you can impersonate anybody. I think you can even probably take over and be me for the rest of the show. We have writer director Zach Gration, producer of several films, probably one of the funniest people I know, and lead singer of Robot Nature, Deepak, Grandpa Ian.
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Speaker 1
How are you guys all doing today?
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Speaker 2
Great.
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Speaker 3
Thank God. I thought I thought I was the lead singer of some band and I was like, oh, I was like, I don't I'm not prepared to answer any questions, but I guess.
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Speaker 4
I'm not even the lead singer or anything. I'm just a solo guy and in the future. But I mean, I think we're all living in the illusion of being a lead singer, of a fantasy world that we could all be in the lead singer together of.
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Speaker 1
Also, maybe.
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Speaker 4
This is the band right here.
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Speaker 2
World famous impersonator. I'm not so sure. But in your world, maybe. I think by the end of the episode, Adam, I'll have I'll have you down. Will all five.
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Speaker 4
Of all five of us. I know who you are by the end of the show.
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Speaker 1
Good. Yeah.
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Speaker 2
And all five of us had to correct your descriptions of us.
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Speaker 1
Boom. All right, you know what? And we'll all be a.
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Speaker 4
Band, and Adam will be the lead singer.
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Speaker 1
Listen, we could. We could. We could put together a song right now, guys. We could. We could change the world in song. We got army behind you. Look at all these instruments. I mean.
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Speaker 3
I know what you do.
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Speaker 1
What do you play most on? What's your what's your lead instrument?
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Speaker 2
I'm a vocalist and bassist. Those are my two main.
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Speaker 3
And then do you specialize exclusively in canceled mainstream impersonation? I guess, Gary, Gary's our canceled. Never mind.
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Speaker 2
Yeah, no, I do. I do feel like the zoom room is like canceled. Anonymous. I don't know what's going on. Adam hosting the underground for canceled people even though none of us are yet. But maybe that's what happens here.
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Speaker 1
You know, I didn't get canceled, but I got Shadow Band. And, you know, I'll tell you.
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Speaker 2
How, as Gary would say, honestly, save your shadow bad. That's it. Excuse, right, Adam? That's an excuse, right? Stop complaining, okay? With Gary as a real shit. Stop complaining. You're not shadow band, okay? You're lazy.
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Speaker 1
Okay, I'm lazy. All right? I'm lazy. Right? I'll fix it. I'll fix it. Geez, you have to pay marketing budget. Not kidding me, but seriously, I want to play some clips of the two of you. I mean, you just got back on tour. You just got off the tour with Gary, right? Tell us about the tour.
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Speaker 2
Yeah, I wouldn't. Yeah, we Gary initiated this inaugural conference for his NFT holders, the holders of his original NFT that he rolled out called the friends and he put together a conference basically around Nfts that took place a few months back in Minneapolis at Viking Stay at the big football stadium there. And it was a very cool conference where they basically had all these different, you know, celebrities that are getting involved with Nfts and like Spike Lee was there, Snoop Dogg, Pharrell, Logan, Paul, all these people I.
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Speaker 1
Had seen with Tom Cruise, that was hilarious.
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Speaker 2
Yeah, that was that was a different thing. But the way I got there was I've been doing a lot of one of my reoccurring bits is Gary Vee impressions on Tik Tok, Instagram and YouTube. And you do enough of that stuff on Tik Tok and it's a pretty powerful platform in that it can reach a lot of people and eventually reached his team.
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Speaker 2
And we had a correspondence and we basically did a big opening ceremony sketch with me and other impersonator, comedian and Gary Vee himself. And we did a whole opening ceremony of the conference and kicked things off with I'm going to play that with a bunch of shtick.
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Speaker 1
Go ahead.
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Speaker 3
Play the clip.
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Speaker 1
I'm going to play that clip for you. You could talk a little bit while I find it. I got to play the clip and figure out where I.
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Speaker 2
Emailed you a clip. But it was it was a lot of fun and it was very cool because I actually I'm not I'm not I, I kind of follow one of these just from a distance. I don't really I'm not involved in it. But as a comedian, it was a it was like prime schtick on steroids. And I've been preparing for my whole life doing synagogue dinners and whatnot.
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Speaker 2
And this was just right up my alley.
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Speaker 1
Did you get to meet a lot of the NFT holders?
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Speaker 2
Yeah, yes, I actually somebody made me one. Check this out here. I'll, I'll grab this I yeah. Please add one thing to someone just like happened to be and he like we bumped into this one guy who an NFT artist who drew this for me on the spot and I'm number 149. He was giving out like 200 of these and it's actually an NFT with a QR code.
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Speaker 2
You scan it. So this is the only one I own because I because it was a cool experience.
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Speaker 1
That it was great.
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Speaker 2
And he gave it to me.
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Speaker 1
So that was fun. That clip. I'm going to play that clip right now and let the audience.
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Speaker 2
While there was a cool experience, as you'll see.
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Speaker 1
Enter the gallery verse v con. I'm going to play the on stage show first. Yeah, sure. Here we go.
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Speaker 2
Please welcome Gary Vaynerchuk. Okay. My name is Gary Fator, Top Series two. So I'm happy to be the only real authentic Gary. We check one, two. Hold on 1/2 for you. I'm Gary did series three five for you. Yeah, it's a pro. Like I'm not the only Gary. Nope. There's two of us. Yep. Like real patients. Fuck, yeah.
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Speaker 2
Push back out. But that's what I think it did.
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Speaker 5
Jack, when I say link, did you say end link linked.
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Speaker 2
Open heart fist bump. Hi can I get a hint of that? Some real shit. Fucking delicious.
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Speaker 1
That didn't start when he came out. I love the part when Gary comes out and you say Daddy's here.
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Speaker 2
Yeah, yeah. I think that might be the next clip. But if you go to my YouTube channel on my Instagram or Twitter, you'll find all the clips about about Viacom.
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Speaker 3
I don't want to I don't want to speak ill of the other impersonator. But positively speaking, you are way superior in my head.
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Speaker 1
How does that guy even resemble Gary Vee?
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Speaker 2
Well, it does. It does it from a different angle, you know, some more exaggerated, different kind of version. And I do a.
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Speaker 3
Gary the.
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Speaker 1
He blog. You pay attention to Gary Vieira.
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Speaker 4
I follow him better yeah.
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Speaker 1
I think I follow him mostly through on his Instagram. I think that's like the only access I have to Gary Vee. He appeared.
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Speaker 4
He appeared a lot more definitely when NFT started getting wild for sure.
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Speaker 1
Yeah, we got rich off of that. I mean, Zach, you work for a an NFT project, correct? Are you on an NFT project?
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Speaker 3
I mean, I own a few NFT is and I am building an NFT based entertainment company. Yes. And then I also work with a company that is building NFT related stuff that I definitely can't talk about because this is on the Internet. I didn't travel, but definitely what I'm building is is really geared to just make artists have more opportunities and way better content than a lot of things that we were currently seeing.
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Speaker 1
Because I love your background. Can you explain your background to us?
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Speaker 3
Well, I am one of the Venezuelans for the vineyard. I have joined the I've joined the group. We're a small group, only 51 of us at this point. But, you know, I support whatever journey we take, whether it's from Venezuela to Martha's Vineyard or back to Florida, you know, cause I'm a I'm a that is me. I want to put that in.
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Speaker 1
That is hilarious. Did you say departed? What was your take on the whole Martha's Vineyard shtick?
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Speaker 4
I don't even know if I saw it. I got I got to catch up. What's going on.
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Speaker 1
Here? Out of the loop. I appreciate that you're not paying attention to the news. It's refreshing that not everybody's glued to their TVs. Basically, Ron DeSantis sent 50 illegal immigrants to Martha's Vineyard and the Liberals had a shit fit and sent 125 least. Even though Martha's Vineyard is a what are they called? Sanctuary.
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Speaker 4
Sanctuary, the sanctuary.
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Speaker 1
And they deported them.
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Speaker 3
Within within about 48 hours of them arriving. They were deported. And and Ron DeSantis was accused of, you know, playing playing games with these people's lives, even though it's pretty clear that he was sending them to a very safe place versus just allowing people like was I don't know. I thought it was a brilliant and hilarious political move.
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Speaker 2
Well, to be fair, he was playing games.
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Speaker 1
But, you know.
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Speaker 2
He it both things can be true.
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Speaker 3
Yeah. Yeah.
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Speaker 4
It sounds like a pretty smart move to shine. Reflexive hypocrisy moves at everybody.
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Speaker 2
So I don't think I don't think the intentions were humanitarian as much as shining a light on the hypocrisy on the left, which he clearly did. And also what people it's kind of a it's kind of has a bit of cringe to go around because you're like, okay, but you didn't do this for the reasons you're claiming you did this.
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Speaker 2
You did it to play the game. And it's it was a it was a, you know, he landed the punch.
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Speaker 1
You know.
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Speaker 4
He was part of the sound like part of the shtick, even saying it was for humanitarian purposes.
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Speaker 2
What's that.
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Speaker 4
Sounds like? That's part of the shtick is even claiming it's humanitarian. It's clearly was. It sounds like a good shtick.
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Speaker 2
Yeah. Yeah. The only issue is that if you're if we're all being honest with ourselves, like, you know, I guess, you know, these people in the middle of it are real people trying to figure things out and to be use this political pawns. It's a fair critique to say that you did that, but it's also equally fair to say.
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Speaker 1
You know, but the estimates, they're saying that over 10 million people have come into this country since Joe Biden took power. And, you know, that's bigger than the U.S. Army. Just to put it in the scope of the US Army has 1.4 million soldiers, right.
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Speaker 2
I'm just curious when you say there, who are you talking about, Adam.
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Speaker 1
Which there.
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Speaker 2
You said they're saying.
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Speaker 1
The news.
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Speaker 2
Newsmax or CNN.
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Speaker 1
And actually they said that almost 2 million have come in this. They had a record 2 million in one month.
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Speaker 3
Well, definitely a lot. No, definitely a lot. I mean, you're definitely right. They were they were I mean, these people had cameras in their face and they got carded. However, it was like, what else? How else are you going to prove the point? You know what I mean? I think that was your point, is that you've got to play it both ways.
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Speaker 3
But I don't know, it's just how else do you even bring people together? Adam Isn't that why we're on this show?
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Speaker 1
You bring people together through comedy. And with that said, that's sure everybody look at this name. Have you seen a meme? So perfect and poignant as this?
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Speaker 3
Is that.
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Speaker 2
My cousin Cortez.
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Speaker 1
That's a Casio Cortez. They took this picture of her from her time at the southern border and they superimposed it off some artist into.
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Speaker 2
The best take I actually I saw was Tim Dillon. You guys know Tim Dillon?
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Speaker 3
No. Well, he's he always has the best take.
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Speaker 2
He said he was like, listen, people, what he did was discuss Sting. He sent these people to Martha's Vineyard. The season is over, okay? It's after Labor Day. You don't say you send them to Palm Beach, you send them somewhere nice during the winter frost. Is it okay? The season's over. It goes Memorial Day to Labor Day. Nothing's going on there anymore.
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Speaker 1
I'll tell you sometimes Zach actually helps me with some writing for the show. And when it happened, I mean, we got on the phone, we were going crazy. Zach had the most brilliant idea ever to do a skit of the top five things that migrant Venezuelans can do in Martha's Vineyard. Before we even got to the show, they were out of Martha's Vineyard and the joke can't be.
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Speaker 3
Yeah, it was like when a guy was the nanny the next day. I like that your chicken doing is also like a little bit. Trump is probably in the same family kind of.
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Speaker 2
Trump's a little bit different folks. Quite a little bit there. A little bit difference. I do the heads, the hands are similar. They're a little similar. Not quite the same. I could do that in I could do that. But that's okay. It's okay. Very Adam gig.
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Speaker 3
Who's your friend? Who's your favorite person to impersonate? Doesn't need to be a marketable impression. It doesn't need to make any money. But who is it is like your favorite. Because I was a really good Trump.
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Speaker 2
Yeah, I think there are better Trump's than me out there as far as impressions go. Yeah, I don't know if that's all right. I get that question a lot, but I don't have a favorite. I guess whoever is the funniest at the time that I'm enjoying doing, because like you do, if you do an impression and then people really like it, you do it a lot.
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Speaker 2
It can get you can wear it out on yourself and it's not so fresh anymore.
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Speaker 1
But everything is worn out on you.
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Speaker 2
Oh I once I had VidCon and then some I you got to take breaks a little bit but it's more about where I can find the funniest bits because the impression is sort of the sugar on top of the cake. I always kind of write sketches and bits with the impression being something that enhances what I'm doing, but it's really like, where's the funny?
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Speaker 2
You know? Like an impression is fun, but it can be a hacky party trick if it's just like, Look at me, I'm Donald Trump or whatever. But if you do like.
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Speaker 1
Sick of the Donald Trump impression, but if you.
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Speaker 2
Do it in a funny way, like write it into a bit, that much more interested in that. So like, you know.
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Speaker 1
Did you do comedy at all or is it just music by you?
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Speaker 4
I mean, I've done comedy, but not you know, it's just sort of like in the moment, in the fly, like being on being in sketches or being, you know, being in theater. It's things like that. A lot of it's in the moment. A lot of it's like we're hanging out and stuff like this. Jokes come up, you know, it's got to be in the flow.
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Speaker 4
But it's, it's not something I've like, actively, like, all right, I'm going to do comedy and then go create it. You know, I've just it's more organically appeared, you know.
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Speaker 1
Guys, I want you to know that this is one of the most talented musicians I've ever seen. Deepak actually lost his house in the Woolsey fire and as like an arm edge to the fire, he recorded a music video. I wish I had that music video to play here. And we'll post a link on the on the on the YouTubes and the rambles and all the streaming channels because it's so brilliant.
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Speaker 1
But he's a violinist and he plays this this melody. And I think that's when I really fell in love with your music. And I'm actually going to play a clip of Robot Nature so that people can understand what robot nature is. But before I get into that clip, you know, it takes brilliance to truly make art. And deep rock is one of the smartest people that I've met.
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Speaker 1
In fact, not only is he such a free thinker, but a tremendous patriot, he organizes every year. A And you guys are like this because you're both Jewish like me. A Sarah Ammonia reading of the Declaration of Independence on the 4th of July. It's kind of like the megillah of the of the 4th of July. And I went this year and I was so touched by what started that for you.
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Speaker 4
It's actually started 20 years ago and a bunch of friends of mine, we were just kind of joking. I'm like, It's July 4th. So like, what is this July 4th? What's the purpose of it? Where did even come from? We didn't remember because, you know, we all went to school and may not have taken it seriously because, you know, in school you're just kind of goofing around a lot.
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Speaker 4
So we were kind of in our teens, like in our older, you know, college type age. And we were just like, just let's what is this Declaration of Independence? We decided to read it kind of being funny. And we started reading it with funny, like British voices and just kind of but then by like halfway through it, it started actually hitting us in our bodies as an actual like this is an amazing document.
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Speaker 4
And by the end we were actually like legitimately, genuinely serious and we were like, whoa. Like we started out literally being funny and doing impersonations and voices of what the, the, the, you know, the colonialists could have sounded like and just and all this stuff. And by the end, we were like, This is amazing. And so we just became like a yearly tradition to read, actually genuinely read it every year.
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Speaker 4
And so we've been hosting it. You know, I've been I've been hosting it really just every year. And now, now that I'm in California, I do it on the beach in front of Gladstone's every every July 4th at like 930 in the morning. We just whoever wants to come, I posted on Facebook, post it on Instagram and people show up and, you know, we read it together and, you know, we talk about it.
00:19:28:23 - 00:19:37:01
Speaker 4
Maybe we have conversations, whatever. You know, it's different every year. Sometimes you play Frisbee for a while. We have people bring music and we jam. We sing patriotic songs depending on who shows up. You know.
00:19:38:03 - 00:19:44:16
Speaker 1
I'm actually going to play a clip of Robot Nature. It's about a minute long. And I want our viewers to be able to get to know the band a little.
00:19:44:24 - 00:19:47:07
Speaker 4
Is this other two clips I sent? Is this the first one?
00:19:47:17 - 00:19:55:03
Speaker 1
This is the first one I recall.
00:19:55:03 - 00:21:03:13
Speaker 5
I don't need to tell you. Don't belong with you. Shake me when you wanted to take it down. Down, right down Santa Fe When I'm done, I stop when you like it, right? Look at time. Yes, it's sappy.
00:21:03:13 - 00:21:09:21
Speaker 1
That's good stuff, man. I love fusion. Sound like that. Nice. Very cool. So, yeah.
00:21:09:21 - 00:21:27:20
Speaker 4
So, I mean, I'm pretty much like since the lockdowns, the band's been like people have been kind of split up. The band's moving around some pretty much going all solo now. But I still like, you know, all the songs were written, you know, and I can do them. I can do them solo anyway. So I'm still doing the robot nature like songs and tons of new ones, a lot more disco stuff.
00:21:27:20 - 00:21:29:07
Speaker 4
But, you know.
00:21:29:16 - 00:21:30:11
Speaker 1
In the near future.
00:21:30:17 - 00:21:31:21
Speaker 4
This rock and what's that again?
00:21:32:02 - 00:21:33:13
Speaker 1
What are you working on in the near future?
00:21:33:19 - 00:21:57:09
Speaker 4
Right now, the solo stuff is a lot more, you know, disco dance oriented, still kind of the same vibe. It's the more of a one man band set up. I've got like it's like a fusion between live looping, multi instruments, piano, drums, bass, guitar beats, a little bit of laptops. Those are almost like DJ meets, live looping meets, you know, one man band like dance kind of dance stuff, but some of the same, some of the same tracks you've heard are being being revamped with a little bit more of like a future Michael Jackson sound to them.
00:21:57:18 - 00:21:59:21
Speaker 4
And then a bunch of new songs I read the last year and a half.
00:22:00:03 - 00:22:12:24
Speaker 1
So if you lost the last three, your other band members, does that mean that there's an open audition? Because I see three people right here that want to be a part of Robot Nature, 80 oh oh.
00:22:13:03 - 00:22:22:12
Speaker 3
Only it's the barber. I mean, if the barber for the band is still around. And does he look like he was working hard? You guys you guys all had very sophisticated haircuts and know.
00:22:23:04 - 00:22:33:11
Speaker 1
I've been to one of Deepak shows, and I'm telling you, they look like they came out of a spaceship crossed with a TV from the 1980s. It's it's their wardrobes are so on point.
00:22:34:04 - 00:22:36:17
Speaker 3
You know, like it looks like a really fun.
00:22:36:19 - 00:22:42:00
Speaker 1
And is anything that you're doing Burning Man inspired? I know Burning Man is a really big part of your life.
00:22:42:00 - 00:22:51:13
Speaker 4
I mean, I just love Burning Man, you know, it's it's just it's just such a vibe, such an energy. I just got back from there. The 33 shows there just got back like a week and a half ago and then went to Austin.
00:22:51:13 - 00:22:53:05
Speaker 1
Does that have to do with the Illuminati?
00:22:54:04 - 00:22:57:00
Speaker 4
No, I don't. I mean I mean, maybe. I don't know. I think everything does.
00:22:57:07 - 00:22:58:22
Speaker 1
I mean, you've got an Alex calculus.
00:23:00:03 - 00:23:11:16
Speaker 2
Everything hasn't really you know what they're doing it. You know they're doing a Burning Man. Look at me like something out of. He went to Burning Man and they turn. All the frogs are Burning Man. That's what they're doing. They're turning the bronze guy and he's going to burn them, man where Hillary Clinton was putting on a secret performance.
00:23:11:16 - 00:23:12:03
Speaker 3
Inside of.
00:23:12:03 - 00:23:26:03
Speaker 2
His show, that show that you just played, that clip, Hillary Clinton was backstage and she was organizing an entire thing with the Illuminati. I knew it because I was there. I saw the folks. I have a secret camera at his concert at Burning Man for me, and I've seen the papers look under the stuff in the nineties. Okay?
00:23:26:07 - 00:23:27:02
Speaker 2
I'm not making this up.
00:23:27:15 - 00:23:35:04
Speaker 1
But look, look, 33 shows that remains quite impressive. How do you do 33 shows in a in a in like a week's time?
00:23:35:16 - 00:23:49:14
Speaker 4
Yeah. I mean, it's just kind of Burning Man's a crazy place. There's a lot of stuff going on. There's 80,000 people there. And the thing about Burning Man, it's not like there's, you know, like these other festivals you go to, like Coachella, there's like four stages, like a main stage. The stage Burning Man is like everyone's making their own stages, right?
00:23:49:14 - 00:24:05:10
Speaker 4
So you've got you've got 80,000 people. There's a bunch of camps, there's hundreds and hundreds of amazing stages. And some of them are on the main player. So, you know, a lot of people just from the community, people know each other and they book there's deejays. Diplo is out there. Diplo probably had like 20 sets. You know, I jumped on DJ sets, I did solo sets.
00:24:05:10 - 00:24:21:04
Speaker 4
I was zipping around on my e-bike with the wagon attached to it with like, you know, bungee cords and all my gear, my pedal boards and just, like, bouncing around and did like five or six shows a day is not, you know, and then in a long day, there's so much activity. It's actually not that big a deal there to do that, you know, I mean, I've done I've done ten shows a day Burning Man before.
00:24:21:05 - 00:24:35:16
Speaker 4
This is like I had my girl there with me this year's rides. I promised I wouldn't do 52 shows like I did another year and just, you know, we zipped around, you know, I did like, like a nighttime show at this one camp and then went to a DJ set, jumped on and played violin and just did some top line singing with the deejay, you know.
00:24:35:16 - 00:24:37:02
Speaker 4
So it was just kind of all over the place.
00:24:37:08 - 00:24:45:12
Speaker 1
Question for you about Burning Man. Do they have like a section for masked people? Are there people walking around with masks?
00:24:45:12 - 00:24:58:20
Speaker 4
They're like, maybe 1% of the people. But, you know, again, that the whole thing is Burning Man encourages freedom, which I do, too. And so I'm I encourage you, if you wish to wear it, go for it. I'm going to probably laugh with you in my mind and, you know, and figure my mouth a little bit. But it's all good.
00:24:58:20 - 00:25:09:12
Speaker 4
Do what you want to do, you know. So there was a few people there that probably had them on and some people had them on legitimately because there's dust storms there. So that's a little different. Now. There are dust storms and people wearing goggles because the.
00:25:09:12 - 00:25:20:18
Speaker 2
Dust, the dust, the dust a burning man is a total myth. That is a total myth institute about the radical left. They have put dust. They are importing dust from Mexico over the border into Burning Man. It used to not be that dusty. Why? Anything that is.
00:25:21:15 - 00:25:37:20
Speaker 1
Illegal. The dust is legal. And any of you guys going to burning them? I mean. No, never. I actually never wanted to go into like September 1st every year. Then I'm like, Oh, I should have gone. Yeah.
00:25:38:01 - 00:25:41:06
Speaker 4
About halfway through it. And you're pretty much late Monday.
00:25:42:02 - 00:25:46:22
Speaker 3
Yeah. Well, now then I get to some good festivals that I've never been a Burning Man.
00:25:47:07 - 00:26:01:05
Speaker 4
Well, that's the thing. Burning Man is, like, so different. I mean, it's hard to explain. Yeah, I'm sure everyone says it's like you can understand less. You go there, but that's what Burning Man is. It's like an experience. It's not really a festival, it's a gathering. It's basically 80,000 people popping up a city in the middle of nowhere.
00:26:01:11 - 00:26:22:10
Speaker 4
And everyone sort of gets aligned with the sort of parallel philosophy of like agreement, you know, self-reliance. Everyone's got they got their own thing. That's why I think it's a big model for everything that we are. We're about here with a lot of freedom and libertarianism, like, you know, independence, because it sort of is a a micro model, successful model of what that could look like with a bunch of different people that have different styles, different looks, different things.
00:26:22:10 - 00:26:43:05
Speaker 4
People are politically all over the map there, but somehow everyone interacts and it's a very peaceful environment. There's no arguments. There's really there's just radical self-reliance is one of the things. But also radical self-expression. Radical inclusion, like things I think could work in real society. And it's and it's effective. There's every type of music, there's every type of food, there's vegans and there's meat eaters, there's naked people, and then there's conservatives.
00:26:43:05 - 00:26:45:21
Speaker 4
Like, it's like everything you imagine, but it's working successfully.
00:26:45:21 - 00:26:49:07
Speaker 2
So basically a giant orgy is what you're saying. I get it.
00:26:49:09 - 00:26:51:09
Speaker 4
It's an it's a giant orgy. That's all it is.
00:26:51:10 - 00:26:59:10
Speaker 3
You managed you managed to find a band that fits your pronouns appropriately. I just want to make sure that was taking care of soccer.
00:26:59:10 - 00:27:00:20
Speaker 4
Anyhow, there's an airplane flying by. I said.
00:27:00:21 - 00:27:06:00
Speaker 3
Yeah, I was going to say, You managed to find a bathroom that represented your pronouns appropriately.
00:27:06:00 - 00:27:13:05
Speaker 4
Yes, I found there was sometimes there there were so many choices about bathrooms with different pronouns. It didn't take long to find it.
00:27:13:11 - 00:27:15:10
Speaker 3
27 bathrooms.
00:27:15:10 - 00:27:17:16
Speaker 4
Put a QR code on the bathroom I wanted. And then I.
00:27:18:07 - 00:27:18:11
Speaker 3
Got.
00:27:18:17 - 00:27:21:06
Speaker 4
With my bike, my e-bike, and I found it every time.
00:27:21:13 - 00:27:33:22
Speaker 1
Guys, I'm going to turn to something a little bit serious and something we can make fun of a lot. The Queen's funeral has been a nonstop source of entertainment for myself. No.
00:27:34:04 - 00:27:35:01
Speaker 3
No, no. Why?
00:27:35:18 - 00:27:59:01
Speaker 1
Well, you know, like at this clip, I'm going to play it for you guys is really simple. It's everything these people that you know, whether it's her son being involved with Jeffrey Epstein and her covering for it, I personally think the queen was the one who killed Jeffrey Epstein. I don't think the Clintons have that much reach. You know, they are the royal family.
00:27:59:01 - 00:28:16:04
Speaker 1
They like to hide in that. They're like this like remnant of the past with like a $3.5 trillion inheritance. You know, they said, oh, we make only $800 million a year that the British taxpayers give us. But really, their art collection alone is worth trillions.
00:28:16:11 - 00:28:18:18
Speaker 2
Do you really think she killed Jeffrey Epstein?
00:28:19:02 - 00:28:23:04
Speaker 1
I speculate with you separately. Speculate? You know, I speculate.
00:28:23:04 - 00:28:33:00
Speaker 2
You know that Jeffrey Fiennes young slave gets quite preposterous. I didn't like it. Let's look. We do about that.
00:28:33:00 - 00:28:42:06
Speaker 1
I wanted to do you know and let's be real. Charles is extremely involved in the great reset. Deepak, you and I were talking about the show a little bit.
00:28:42:06 - 00:28:44:11
Speaker 3
I mean there like to level set out of.
00:28:44:12 - 00:28:49:11
Speaker 1
The plan down there plandemic three. In contrast, the great awakening.
00:28:49:17 - 00:28:52:18
Speaker 2
Suicide in a jail cell. So unbelievable. Yes, yes.
00:28:52:19 - 00:28:54:00
Speaker 1
Andrew, you went.
00:28:54:00 - 00:28:54:06
Speaker 2
Down.
00:28:54:18 - 00:29:16:15
Speaker 1
I'm going to play a clip from the queen queen's procession. And I think it's quite entertaining. It's sad, actually, but she has one of her guards pass over in the middle of the session and have a seizure on the floor. And you have to ask yourself, is this vaccine related? Now I'm going to play.
00:29:16:21 - 00:29:22:15
Speaker 3
The first question of sorry.
00:29:22:15 - 00:29:31:10
Speaker 1
Ace plan. Watch that. Oh, yeah she's and and this was her her.
00:29:31:11 - 00:29:33:23
Speaker 3
And world star presents I never.
00:29:36:04 - 00:29:40:08
Speaker 1
Related definitely vaccine related. Right so many so.
00:29:40:08 - 00:29:45:06
Speaker 4
Many of those it's like there's an infinite amount of clips just like that. And it's all just isn't that.
00:29:46:05 - 00:30:00:09
Speaker 1
I encourage anybody that did take the vaccine. We're not here to hate you, but they've got the work of Doctor Carey, my dad. I'd love to get her on the show because she's doing a vaccine, detoxing. And of course, she was cancer.
00:30:00:09 - 00:30:01:23
Speaker 2
She's getting people unvaccinated.
00:30:02:12 - 00:30:05:09
Speaker 1
She's unvaccinated. And people see that, like sedating people.
00:30:05:13 - 00:30:10:14
Speaker 2
But Adam, here's the question. Are like, how do you square being so anti-vax with also being a hypochondriac?
00:30:12:05 - 00:30:12:18
Speaker 1
Well.
00:30:13:05 - 00:30:13:13
Speaker 3
Huh.
00:30:14:01 - 00:30:17:19
Speaker 1
That's a good question. Say better are you saying I'm a hypochondriac?
00:30:18:09 - 00:30:23:21
Speaker 2
A slightly. I remember when thing when this thing was rolling out, you were like, get away from me. You were the guy with the toilet paper.
00:30:23:22 - 00:30:24:15
Speaker 1
I was at the.
00:30:24:15 - 00:30:27:21
Speaker 3
Very least over the contract.
00:30:27:22 - 00:30:43:05
Speaker 2
You were the guy. And now I'm going to ask you a question. You got to be honest with yourself and with the panel. If Trump won in 2020, would you have gotten Vaxxed if it was a beautiful vaccine? It's working great, folks. I'm going to take the jab as a nation, get the jab.
00:30:43:17 - 00:31:03:00
Speaker 1
I don't take flu shots. I don't take prescription medicine. I didn't agree with Trump on the vaccine, to be honest with you. That's the one part where I look. Okay, fine, I will be back for Trump. I'm having a hard time being on Team Trump. Actually, our last show we had Roger Stone on and Darren Beattie, who was Trump's who was Trump's speechwriter.
00:31:03:12 - 00:31:20:07
Speaker 1
And you know, there was so much Trump ism on the show. And all I wanted to do was say, hey, you know, this guy fucked up. The reason why we're in this situation and lost our country was because of Trump. And the reason why everybody's vaccinated and we're still in an Emergency Authorization Use Act is because of Trump.
00:31:20:14 - 00:31:26:09
Speaker 1
He should have ended the emergency use authorization when he left and forced Biden to restart it. MM Yes.
00:31:26:09 - 00:31:30:12
Speaker 2
But do you think you would be as hostile towards vaccines if Trump won?
00:31:30:19 - 00:31:32:23
Speaker 1
You've always been hostile towards vaccines my whole life.
00:31:33:21 - 00:31:47:13
Speaker 2
Do you think that the a lot of the sentiment and distrust of the medical apparatus and the vaccine push has to do with tribal or political. The ideology more than more than medicine.
00:31:47:17 - 00:31:55:11
Speaker 1
The only reason why I ever was open to the possibility of potentially vaccinating my children was to get girls.
00:31:56:12 - 00:31:57:15
Speaker 2
Vaccinating your children?
00:31:58:12 - 00:32:10:17
Speaker 1
Yeah. I don't want to vaccinate my children, especially after this pandemic. And seeing how that the vaccine technology rolled out and the deep dives that I've done, I think I'm completely anti-vax. Now.
00:32:10:19 - 00:32:12:09
Speaker 2
You have children and didn't know about Adam.
00:32:13:06 - 00:32:15:11
Speaker 1
I wish I was unvaccinated. I mean.
00:32:15:12 - 00:32:19:18
Speaker 3
Tune in to Maury Povich next week. Adam is on and we'll find out.
00:32:19:18 - 00:32:41:18
Speaker 2
Adam's you young kids. But my point is this. I think a lot of the sentiment has to do with the fact that people felt a certain betrayal or of well, calling into question the legitimacy of 2020 is directly tied into being so hesitant about a vaccine. If Trump had won, then it would be like, we're going to defeat this COVID 50 with beautiful vaccine.
00:32:41:21 - 00:32:45:15
Speaker 2
You would have seen a lot more non hesitancy towards the vaccine.
00:32:45:16 - 00:33:09:00
Speaker 3
I'll say two things. Two things I saw in this in this ridiculous journalism that I found very comical as well was like one that specifically with the vaccine was, you know, Trump got it was like, you know endorsing it's beautiful vaccines the best vaccine you know and it's everything. And then and then, you know, Kamala Biden, all those people were like, don't take that vaccine.
00:33:09:00 - 00:33:09:21
Speaker 3
Don't take that Trump.
00:33:10:01 - 00:33:13:13
Speaker 2
Don't try to take it. I'm not taking it. Yeah.
00:33:13:17 - 00:33:28:21
Speaker 3
And then this second he was out, it wasn't even that you should take it. It was that you are to be a good American. You should take the vaccine like they would. They literally that was the narrative. And I was like, whoa, that was a huge shift in like race. And and so that's the.
00:33:28:21 - 00:33:31:15
Speaker 2
Same applies to them. I'm saying we got to keep each other always on.
00:33:31:16 - 00:33:34:05
Speaker 3
Yeah, no, no. For sure. No, no, I agree. That's why I.
00:33:34:10 - 00:33:46:14
Speaker 2
Say they became very pro-vaccine upon his losing and then they wanted to to kind of that, you know, there was a credit to be had by the medical apparatus under Biden. But I think the same aversion to the vaccine was a political reaction.
00:33:46:14 - 00:34:12:05
Speaker 3
I, I agree. And I think they they played it that way. They should have made it not they shouldn't have gone from don't do it to forcing you to take it. When it was obvious that pretty much everyone in this room more or less like we didn't need it, you know what I mean? And less and less, obviously, if someone here has a condition that we don't know about, but it's like, generally speaking, we didn't need to be first in line to do it or lose our job.
00:34:12:05 - 00:34:35:13
Speaker 3
You know, if that was that was like a little bit over the top. The other thing I notice and Adam and I have talked about this is, you know, in the height of like the just the mask wearing and the and what was called the pandemic, I don't call it the pandemic. I mean, when people were dying from COVID still, and then there were the protests that turned to riots and, you know, whatever was going on.
00:34:35:13 - 00:34:39:09
Speaker 1
And during the Democrat the Democrat riots of 2010. Sure.
00:34:39:19 - 00:35:02:22
Speaker 3
Sure. Whatever you wrote about them. But looking at it just from a narrative perspective was like, you know, anyone who went to watch anything Trump related or any sort of like or work, they were like super spreaders. And then literally and CNN and I think it was the L.A. Times, it was, you know, COVID spikes in large cities with protests, but not because of the protests.
00:35:03:02 - 00:35:25:03
Speaker 3
At the same time that he was saying that people of color were were inverse or, you know, way more disproportionately impacted by the virus. And I was like, so how are you telling a bunch of young people to go out and scream in by the thousands and that in that community, things are going up, but not because you're telling them to go scream, you know, by hundreds and thousands of people.
00:35:25:03 - 00:35:42:00
Speaker 3
And I was like, that was like I wasn't I think people had the right to go out and protest just like other people had the right to do. However they want. But don't lie to people and like pull them out of their house and like, you know, and take a really salacious, horrible event that was caught on camera and then like use that as like, oh, we've all been.
00:35:42:09 - 00:36:13:02
Speaker 2
In protests for BLM, were outside Zora. So I understand now that I totally understand. I think that's when I think that's when the whole campaign of social distancing and you're going to kill grandma if you go out and socialize. Lost all its credibility from a public health standpoint was when all of a sudden you started to see mass protests and not a word from the same medical apparatus and the same public health officials that were condemning people for getting together for weddings and funerals of loved ones and family members.
00:36:13:02 - 00:36:19:23
Speaker 2
The second the protests fit a certain narrative, all of the sudden you're worried about it. And that's, I think, all the credibility about it.
00:36:20:07 - 00:36:23:01
Speaker 1
I remember I had to go to a zoom zoom funeral.
00:36:23:02 - 00:36:26:00
Speaker 2
Yeah, I'm saying that's when the credibility, I think, on the whole was complete.
00:36:26:14 - 00:36:29:24
Speaker 1
That it wasn't that extreme.
00:36:30:15 - 00:36:45:02
Speaker 2
But that doesn't mean that that doesn't mean that when people were dying in droves in New York City, there were people who were irresponsible taking elderly people out to events that then died because of it. And you know that all those things can be proven.
00:36:45:08 - 00:36:50:03
Speaker 1
Or putting forward patients that nursing homes, whether we're putting COVID patients in.
00:36:50:03 - 00:37:09:21
Speaker 2
Nursing. Yeah, I'm just saying clearly we can all agree that for older senior citizens, I mean, we can't blame Andrew Cuomo for murder, for killing all these old people when I can't say at the same time COVID wasn't a real problem. I mean, for them it was. So it would have been much, much nicer if from the get go we could walk and chew gum at the same time and say, okay, if you're 65 and up, stay home.
00:37:09:24 - 00:37:37:23
Speaker 2
You don't have to work anymore anyway. You can get meals delivered to you if you're under that, you know, do what the Nordic countries did and they basically had comparable experiences, if not better. And we all kind of can see that in hindsight, that argument seemed to hold the most water. But at the end of the day, if because it wasn't nuanced and because everything you would say about COVID was couched in Wait a minute, you Trump supporter, because it sounds like you're being you know, like everything was couched in political as to where you stand.
00:37:38:03 - 00:37:40:02
Speaker 2
It became an impossible conversation to have.
00:37:40:13 - 00:37:57:15
Speaker 4
So I mean, and that's the thing a lot of people I work with from the beginning were everything that's now being agreed upon. Now, from the beginning, people were saying this was a disease of the elderly or the or the immunocompromised or people with preexisting conditions. And that stuff was coming up. But if you even if you mentioned that, like you just said, you'd be like, oh, you must be.
00:37:57:15 - 00:38:13:05
Speaker 4
It's it was it was attached to politics instead of just, you know, just being truthful about the information. Like you said, they can all happen at the same time, walk and chew gum. I mean, it was older people percentage wise, and it was at the same time pretty much less than or, you know, weaker than the flu also for this age group.
00:38:13:05 - 00:38:23:08
Speaker 4
And those facts can exist at the same time. But to be even to even say that you would get immediately canceled, to even claim that it was related to the flu for certain age groups, even though it clearly was.
00:38:23:20 - 00:38:25:02
Speaker 3
The conversation I.
00:38:25:02 - 00:38:57:05
Speaker 1
Actually got suspended from Facebook because I posted the FDA just a link to the FDA walking back their claims on hydroxychloroquine. And I didn't say any commentary. I just said I just posted the link and the headline to the news article was FDA now says that hydroxychloroquine can help you. And that was enough for Facebook. You know, and turning to other news, like, I don't know if you guys saw the Facebook, Joe Rogan Mark Zuckerberg interview.
00:38:57:05 - 00:38:58:06
Speaker 1
Did you guys catch that?
00:38:58:14 - 00:39:00:03
Speaker 2
Yeah, a little bit. Bits and pieces.
00:39:00:09 - 00:39:06:05
Speaker 1
Where he he pretty much says that the federal government told him what to do.
00:39:06:05 - 00:39:21:07
Speaker 2
So we got a notice from the FDA that said there would be disinformation coming down. And we have to take a look at that because we are concerned. But I don't have a perfect mask, but it's something like that. I got.
00:39:21:09 - 00:39:21:17
Speaker 1
To be.
00:39:22:01 - 00:39:30:03
Speaker 2
Normal and human and, you know, happy, trying to connect people around the world. And we have to be here.
00:39:30:20 - 00:39:36:14
Speaker 3
You just like to say you just have to stay in a perfect. We still plan your voice pretty smoothly. I think. Yeah.
00:39:36:22 - 00:39:38:23
Speaker 1
I think he did become a cyborg.
00:39:38:23 - 00:39:48:16
Speaker 2
And what we have to realize is, yeah, I did see where he admitted basically to shadow banning dissenting information. The government came to him.
00:39:48:16 - 00:40:13:23
Speaker 3
It's like no one is surprised. It's funny how I Fox News access. I was surprised about it like was the story. It's like we all like literally everybody knew it because even the truth of how this whole frickin pandemic started was a conspiracy that got censored and then was the literal truth, you know, like, it was just. I mean, so it's just it's I mean, it is what it is like.
00:40:13:23 - 00:40:27:20
Speaker 3
It's annoying and hopefully it will change. But we kind of know, I mean, I think the problem is, is like it's never been sexy to tell the truthful thing. It's never been the popular vocal.
00:40:27:24 - 00:40:32:08
Speaker 1
Unless your Alex Jones Alex Jones tells the truth and he's sexy as hell.
00:40:32:22 - 00:40:34:01
Speaker 2
Not on that.
00:40:35:07 - 00:40:45:15
Speaker 1
You know, I'll tell you if you want to go down that path and watching the Alex Jones trial. Yeah. And this guy has been apologizing for six years for Sandy Hook before he even got sued.
00:40:46:10 - 00:41:20:03
Speaker 2
I understand. Yeah. I'm just saying, I actually think before this trial came out like the Alex Alex Jones with you know, for some in some way I felt like public perception of him was shifting more towards like he less taking him seriously as a political commentator who's controversial and more like, oh, this guy's just a funny goofball. Like him being on Rogan, he was sort of going through a brand evolution of being just like, Hey, look, I'm, you know, he even said to Rogan, like, there's a quote, a meme where he goes, I'm kind of retarded, okay?
00:41:20:04 - 00:41:21:16
Speaker 1
And, you know, I saw that.
00:41:21:18 - 00:41:24:10
Speaker 2
In other words, like, this is just a crazy, kooky guy.
00:41:24:10 - 00:41:26:04
Speaker 1
So and 1255 on.
00:41:26:04 - 00:41:38:10
Speaker 2
Reddit and I'm like, I don't know how he's doing it, but over time it seemed like Alex Jones was evolving into just more of an entertainment piece. And then the Sandy Hook trial more recently in the very recent like months back into that context.
00:41:38:10 - 00:41:59:18
Speaker 1
Let's be honest, guys. And Deepak, I want your opinion on this, too, because, you know, you've really studied the Constitution at ad nauseum. I'll say, why is it a crime to question if an event took place or not, if it was a conspiracy or a hoax, like does that mean that the moon landing people now can all be sued by this?
00:41:59:20 - 00:42:00:14
Speaker 1
Offended by it?
00:42:01:09 - 00:42:17:01
Speaker 3
Well well, this. So you're asking a very loaded question because this is a very specific thing to having a bunch of kids shot and killed, which is a very distressing matter. So if the I don't know what the charges, but if the charges about.
00:42:17:08 - 00:42:19:23
Speaker 1
You know, blaming the clip, it was a 20.
00:42:20:16 - 00:42:37:20
Speaker 3
I no, no, no, no, no. I know, I know. I know like the background. But what I'm saying is in this very particular case, the ability to create I don't know what would be considered like undue stress and damages in this case is very it's like I mean, you basically just need a flip someone you know what I mean?
00:42:37:22 - 00:42:47:20
Speaker 1
Like, for example, let's take The New York Times, for example, can veterans who lost arms and legs from the Iraq war.
00:42:48:08 - 00:42:48:23
Speaker 3
They signed up.
00:42:48:23 - 00:42:54:22
Speaker 1
For our times different. The New York Times said that they had weapons of mass destruction and cost us $5 trillion and millions.
00:42:55:08 - 00:42:59:00
Speaker 2
You're asking a group of ignoramuses about law like I.
00:42:59:00 - 00:43:02:04
Speaker 1
Want to hear from you on this because he's not such an ignoramus.
00:43:02:05 - 00:43:09:03
Speaker 2
No, no. As far as that is concerned, as far as the law concerned, you're like, what's the legality of this? Because there's a lawsuit now. Okay.
00:43:09:03 - 00:43:09:12
Speaker 1
I don't want.
00:43:09:12 - 00:43:10:03
Speaker 2
To say.
00:43:10:03 - 00:43:24:15
Speaker 1
Well, but are we going to be okay? Let's not talk about the law, but let's talk about culture. And I really want to hear Deepak's opinion on this. Like, is this like like culturally, socially? Is this the path that we want to go down as a country? What do you think?
00:43:25:02 - 00:43:43:03
Speaker 4
Well, no, I mean, I've been this is this is all gray area. That's why they're that's why there even is a case, because it is on that line of like what is appropriate versus what is law, what is technically considered libel, what is going to cause stress, what what words can actually create harassment. Right. And is it compelling violence?
00:43:43:03 - 00:44:01:17
Speaker 4
Like just like, you know, like if Trump's giving a speech and he says one thing and it leads to this, people are going to have a debate of like what aspect of it actually can theoretically lead to something. And I think that's where I would lean. I personally I would lean towards as much free speech as possible. But you've got to just see where the line is, where physical harm actually starts to get.
00:44:01:17 - 00:44:31:05
Speaker 1
Cause I think that that is a part of the plan because I mean, as you saw, that Alex Jones is the first to be censored off of all media. Now, this kind of lawfare that's taking place where they're going to war against conservatives through the courts. I mean, if you look at the presidential election in 2024, the Republicans have two candidates, Donald Trump and Ron DeSantis, and now both of them are under investigation by the DOJ.
00:44:31:17 - 00:44:32:08
Speaker 1
I mean, and.
00:44:32:10 - 00:44:43:23
Speaker 4
I think I think there really is a blatant targeting, you know, that's a one sided targeting going on for sure. And I think Alex Jones is being made an example of so that they can set a precedent to do more censoring and canceling.
00:44:43:23 - 00:45:13:02
Speaker 2
Alex Jones is not being made an example of as a conservative. That's not why they're coming after Alex Jones. We can you know, I think we're talking cross-purposes here. Yes. Is there is there political targeting of political dissidents on the from the left to the right when the left is in power? I think it's pretty obvious and is big tech and even most mainstream institutions leaning to the left and therefore putting all their pulling all the resources into trying to sway the culture against conservative ideas.
00:45:13:02 - 00:45:29:16
Speaker 2
I think so. And you're seeing a response to that in the daily wire plus and play Prager U. And Young Americans for freedom and the and young people there's a there's a there's a there's a tug of war going on there for sure. In the case of Alex Jones, it's different at 70. Look, we can all agree this is low hanging fruit.
00:45:29:22 - 00:45:35:06
Speaker 2
Kids got murdered in broad daylight and he just decides to call that question. We can all say, oh, he's not right.
00:45:35:07 - 00:45:59:02
Speaker 1
Look, I'll be honest with you on this show. I will say it right now, you have all these shooting. A lot of weird shit went down, was it? I don't. But these are false flags. But the question that I have is, does the government do these? Is the CIA MK-ULTRA type programs, are they involved in these school shootings?
00:45:59:10 - 00:46:05:22
Speaker 1
We're gun control. And that's something that I think about all the time. Every time I see a school shooting, I think is the government involved? Are they trying to take guns.
00:46:06:19 - 00:46:09:22
Speaker 2
Without destroying it? That's a strange impulse where you want to check.
00:46:10:14 - 00:46:25:21
Speaker 1
On me without wasting a breath. Yeah. The second a child's blood hits and spills the ground, every Democrat is up there saying, you got to take the guns away from everybody. And nine times out of ten, it's an illegal gun that does the school shooting.
00:46:26:07 - 00:46:27:15
Speaker 2
Again, separate agencies.
00:46:27:22 - 00:46:35:23
Speaker 1
How bad is that? No gap in this whole case is because he questioned it in a 20 minute segment and they never spoke about it again.
00:46:36:04 - 00:46:49:00
Speaker 2
Okay. If that's the case and the government's so powerful, why don't they strategically, the Republicans place a school savior at every school to shoot the gun, to shoot the shooter and prove that guns also save people? I mean, there are motivated.
00:46:49:00 - 00:46:50:15
Speaker 1
Trying to get on that every.
00:46:50:15 - 00:47:12:11
Speaker 3
School I think this goes back like Amy was talking about you know how both sides have got to be accountable. And I think like in this sense, you know, there's and I would agree with Deepak, like free speech has to it's we're the only country really that even pretends to have it as a value. And sometimes we are pretending that it's value.
00:47:12:11 - 00:47:25:11
Speaker 3
However, y you can't you you may have a question as to whether or not the government was involved in Sandy Hook or you value. But for you to attack a parent of a kid who was murdered because you have.
00:47:25:23 - 00:47:27:15
Speaker 1
Never heard that victim's name.
00:47:28:18 - 00:47:33:18
Speaker 3
What I'm saying is that is different than.
00:47:33:24 - 00:47:36:02
Speaker 1
It would be like I didn't.
00:47:36:19 - 00:47:55:13
Speaker 3
Go to the party and now I'm getting and now I'm I'm not allowed to the party, you know what I mean? Like that. Those are two completely different things. And and that's why it's important to say there are cases that are worth evaluating with with a level head with, you know, with justice in mind not and that is a witch hunt on either side.
00:47:55:17 - 00:48:07:23
Speaker 3
But to say, like just because the left is overzealous about it, that it should never happen, it's like, well, sometimes it should happen because sometimes people are doing the wrong thing. Is that being misused? No. I mean, I think it's very obvious.
00:48:07:23 - 00:48:08:19
Speaker 2
But Adam, also.
00:48:09:04 - 00:48:29:23
Speaker 1
Before I get you on me in a second, I just I'm very involved in the Senator Mastriano campaign for governor in Pennsylvania. Been working on the campaign the whole time as a quasi official Jewish liaison to the to the campaign. Now, his opponent, Josh SHAPIRO, won't stop calling him an anti-Semite, even though I.
00:48:30:03 - 00:48:36:17
Speaker 3
Can't stop won't stop existing. Yeah, that happens to them.
00:48:36:18 - 00:48:46:09
Speaker 1
Is they they make these salacious stories, they write it. They call him an anti-Semite, a bigot. Is mastriano entitled now to sue the SHAPIRO campaign for damages?
00:48:47:08 - 00:49:05:07
Speaker 2
Again, you're asking in one sense, you're asking a very particular legal question. In another sense, I would say one should be able to I don't know what I don't know what the state the conditions for libel are in this country. I don't know the law in that way. So I'm going to completely, you know, plead the Fifth on that one.
00:49:05:07 - 00:49:14:07
Speaker 2
I don't know what the law is on if something is illegal to say, you know, I know that in the clear, the clear and present danger of what is a flailing and fire in the middle.
00:49:14:08 - 00:49:15:18
Speaker 1
Of the fire in a theater.
00:49:15:18 - 00:49:46:13
Speaker 2
You can't cause whatever I'm saying. So I don't know what the legality is. The question that I think what I think you have to realize and just be aware of Adam is like you conflict. You're conflating a couple of different things here. So is you're conflating the idea that political like censorship or the targeting of people and the regulations of of, you know, like you you can you can make a fair assessment that there's foul play going on in certain ways.
00:49:46:13 - 00:50:07:10
Speaker 2
But there's also a sense of not saying that just because something is politically incorrect doesn't make it okay to say like heinous, horrible things to people just because you can legally. That's what I'm trying to get at. And I was trying to clumsily get my way there. There are. It's possible Alex Jones said some horrible, heinous things that he should be held accountable for, not necessarily he should be thrown in jail for or maybe even press charges for.
00:50:07:10 - 00:50:08:16
Speaker 2
And you can hold both opinions.
00:50:08:16 - 00:50:13:01
Speaker 1
I think it's pretty clear that they want to take him off the air and that's what they're trying to do. Yeah.
00:50:13:02 - 00:50:13:06
Speaker 2
Yeah.
00:50:13:15 - 00:50:33:24
Speaker 1
But my second reason is for a 20 minute segment you might not want I'll tell you something, I watch Alex Jones every single day for 3 hours a day and he talks. There's some stories that he talks about all the time Hunter Biden, Jeffrey Epstein, all this stuff with vaccines and COVID, these are things he speaks about every single day.
00:50:34:21 - 00:50:47:07
Speaker 1
He spoke about Sandy Hook for a brief, brief moment and then it was a dead story. And it didn't even happen until years later after he apologized. He apologized six, six years ago.
00:50:47:15 - 00:50:48:12
Speaker 2
For not multiple.
00:50:48:12 - 00:50:55:18
Speaker 1
Segments that he was wrong. And I walked back his comments. Now, as The New York Times walked back, any comments? You know, I mean.
00:50:56:01 - 00:51:01:18
Speaker 3
What is what we're getting every day, which you caught up on Alex Jones right now? Honestly, what's.
00:51:01:18 - 00:51:01:20
Speaker 1
That?
00:51:01:20 - 00:51:23:01
Speaker 3
I think I think I think we should be talking about what I'm saying, which is the idea, not the Alex Jones specific thing like this isn't about him. Like we're getting caught up on him as a person. And I think there's a there's an underlying idea that, yeah, Adam I think like Amy brought up, it's important. I will say, well, I don't know if you want to move on here.
00:51:23:01 - 00:51:29:11
Speaker 3
I had a very interesting thing happen today that I realized that was a very California.
00:51:29:11 - 00:51:29:18
Speaker 1
Very.
00:51:30:00 - 00:51:45:03
Speaker 3
Discriminating, very discrimination thing. I was I was doing this sexual harassment course that I had to do for my job, not because I was told I needed to, you know, rebuff my high school interest and.
00:51:45:03 - 00:51:48:00
Speaker 1
They needed to go to and the well, that's.
00:51:48:01 - 00:52:18:20
Speaker 3
One of the questions. One of the questions was you are legally protected from discrimination against your sexual orientation, your religion, your race and your political views, your political views and all of the above. And I put all of the above, but you're not actually protected for your political views. You can be discriminated against for your political views in California.
00:52:18:20 - 00:52:20:01
Speaker 1
Oh, yeah. And we saw that.
00:52:20:13 - 00:52:21:05
Speaker 3
Well, I mean, are.
00:52:21:06 - 00:52:25:23
Speaker 2
We talking about your private, private, private businesses? What are we talking about?
00:52:25:23 - 00:52:26:22
Speaker 1
I mean, we got three big.
00:52:27:03 - 00:52:28:13
Speaker 3
This is kind of like this is just happening.
00:52:28:15 - 00:52:29:02
Speaker 1
Lose their.
00:52:29:02 - 00:52:29:17
Speaker 3
Job because my.
00:52:29:17 - 00:52:32:16
Speaker 1
Company had known other people their political feelings were.
00:52:34:01 - 00:52:47:10
Speaker 3
I mean a company with a California based education, you know, online thing and this is interesting. I just found that very, very interesting that you're legally able to be discriminated against for it and for.
00:52:47:10 - 00:53:04:22
Speaker 2
Holding opinions that the company doesn't like. I that doesn't surprise me at all. I mean, it doesn't surprise me like, yeah, those are things the argument being you can't control the other things. There are there are immutable what's the word characteristics that you're just born right. But one of them is is a particular temperament and position that you take.
00:53:05:01 - 00:53:23:22
Speaker 2
But Adam, one thing I have to point out is like when you bring up things like whenever I see a school shooting, I can't help but think the government might be involved. Sounds I don't know how you feel about this particular issue, but like that sounds to me very similar to when 911 truther say, hey, George Bush and Halliburton, these companies benefited from getting into the Iraq war.
00:53:23:22 - 00:53:40:05
Speaker 2
It's pretty clear that there must be a link to the government being involved in 911, causing the towers to come down. Or I see a lot of Jews in media. I see a lot of like these like, you know, Protocols of the Elders of Zion type ideas and then just jumping to these things. It doesn't mean that Democrats don't take advantage of this.
00:53:40:17 - 00:53:45:13
Speaker 2
Never mind. That's where you stand. Oh, God. Now it doesn't mean.
00:53:45:19 - 00:53:48:09
Speaker 4
Done with Adam on some of these things. I mean, every time I see this.
00:53:48:20 - 00:53:56:10
Speaker 1
I can't wait to see these. Amy It's so one of the building seven. So why can't I question that? Why is it that I was.
00:53:57:12 - 00:54:05:09
Speaker 2
You asking questions? You've already come to conclusions. You have a presumption that the government is involved. If you're asking honest questions, you should ask. But just the.
00:54:05:17 - 00:54:08:24
Speaker 1
Question for you, is the government involved in any of these things.
00:54:10:09 - 00:54:11:08
Speaker 2
Any of these.
00:54:11:08 - 00:54:26:01
Speaker 1
Things, any conspiracy? 911 School shootings. Is our government, are they puritanical with us? Are they good to us always? Do we trust our government all the time. And our 87,000 additional IRS agent.
00:54:26:01 - 00:54:46:17
Speaker 3
I'll answer is kind of like Tom telling our science. Our our government is here to govern. And in the governing and the governing of the people, it's important to keep the governance well governed, because when you govern, there are governors and governance is exactly right.
00:54:46:17 - 00:54:47:08
Speaker 2
That's that's.
00:54:47:11 - 00:54:48:05
Speaker 3
Our government.
00:54:48:22 - 00:54:50:00
Speaker 1
And I don't.
00:54:50:00 - 00:55:00:11
Speaker 4
Trust our government. I think. 911 Shadi I think the pandemic should anything. I like them, but it's a bunch of school shootings or potentially false flags and you know, but that's that's, you know, and we should have the right to at least speak about it without.
00:55:00:11 - 00:55:01:03
Speaker 1
That for sure.
00:55:01:15 - 00:55:10:07
Speaker 2
And you should have the right to face and abide by the same token face, judgment and scrutiny. If you say things that might be have no basis in reality or evidence. I'm not saying.
00:55:10:17 - 00:55:12:12
Speaker 4
But but but but but on every everyone.
00:55:12:12 - 00:55:13:05
Speaker 2
Has a doing.
00:55:13:14 - 00:55:13:21
Speaker 4
Everything.
00:55:14:09 - 00:55:31:03
Speaker 2
If you're going to make a claim, the onus is also on you. Is the government squeaky clean? Of course not. Does it? Are some conspiracies turn out to be true? Yes, that does happen. But that's a very different line of thinking than correlation causation. Hey, it's very dangerous to say I see a lot of this. Therefore this must be true.
00:55:31:07 - 00:55:36:08
Speaker 2
Just like I don't know. Adam, what do the Protocols of the Elders of Zion have? Some merit. They're just asking.
00:55:36:08 - 00:55:49:02
Speaker 1
Questions. You know what? I'm still waiting for my membership I deserve. Let's be real. If there's one person who deserves to be in the Elders of Zion and I'm speaking to you, Chairman, you send me my invitation, damn it.
00:55:49:11 - 00:55:51:10
Speaker 2
I'm just saying, like I'm with you.
00:55:51:14 - 00:55:51:21
Speaker 4
I think.
00:55:51:21 - 00:55:55:03
Speaker 2
I think needs to be a standard. There needs to be some kind of know.
00:55:55:08 - 00:56:17:24
Speaker 4
And I agree with you on that. I think that causation is not correlation. That whole phrase makes sense. I think sine scientific method is important and all that kind of stuff. So it doesn't. But that that said, I think a lot of times when a lot of pieces are in place that might lead to scientific method and you're not even allowed to talk about those, that's when you start going, okay, maybe there is an intentional suppression of the actual information that could be blatantly leading to that too.
00:56:17:24 - 00:56:22:05
Speaker 2
And it comes from the left too. You saw it with Koven and a lot of questions that needed to be.
00:56:22:18 - 00:56:27:00
Speaker 1
Squashed than any conspiracies. The left trust the government indiscriminately.
00:56:27:11 - 00:56:40:12
Speaker 2
But the one thing that conservative ideas that have merit, the conservative idea that we shouldn't take it for granted, that you can say, Oh, America, shady. It's like, yeah, compared to what? Like in terms of what country you would rather live in. That's one of the I'm not I'm not just doing, you know, conservative.
00:56:40:23 - 00:56:45:11
Speaker 1
On that on me. I'm being honest with you. I would rather be nowhere but America. And that says I'm America.
00:56:45:11 - 00:56:47:18
Speaker 4
I'm an America that's loving, you know, American.
00:56:47:21 - 00:56:48:23
Speaker 2
Yeah. So I'm just saying, like.
00:56:49:00 - 00:56:49:14
Speaker 1
You talk about me.
00:56:49:14 - 00:56:55:14
Speaker 4
I'm not I'm not considering the media America. I'm considering information beyond that's beyond that's a global thing. I think that's.
00:56:55:14 - 00:56:57:18
Speaker 2
Talking about the deep state, folks. Very deep.
00:56:58:05 - 00:57:01:23
Speaker 4
Now we're talking I think this is a global fight on an American thing. This is all over the place.
00:57:01:23 - 00:57:02:18
Speaker 1
Joe Biden yet.
00:57:04:05 - 00:57:29:05
Speaker 2
Not really and not something I'm happy with. But there's a little bit of a look. That is what we're doing because America's there's nine, there's there's 11 and nine. There's lots of elevens and numbers. There's planes and they're flying around. And that's what we're doing. We're flying around here. Look, look, number one. Number one, you're making a claim is there's no other you raise preposterous claim.
00:57:30:06 - 00:57:31:18
Speaker 3
That was way too sensical.
00:57:32:01 - 00:57:34:08
Speaker 1
Ever heard of the president ism now?
00:57:34:09 - 00:57:37:20
Speaker 2
71, because we're going to get back to you guys.
00:57:37:23 - 00:58:00:03
Speaker 1
I want to pivot a little bit making way to this, by the way. I appreciate this conversation. I appreciate the back and forth on conspiracy. This is something that that, you know, we have to have this conversation if, you know, there's a reason why conspiracy is a federal felony and that it's a crime, it's a crime to commit a conspiracy.
00:58:00:12 - 00:58:18:14
Speaker 1
So when people go around and they say, are you a conspiracy theorist that's only aiding and abetting criminals, that type of behavior, if somebody makes a valid claim, like why, then why did Building seven fall down the brick buildings that were next door that were 200 years old? Why didn't they fall down if the earth was was shaking?
00:58:18:14 - 00:58:39:24
Speaker 1
Building seven was built to survive, to survive a plane crash. All the buildings there were built to survive. How to building seven four down and it was the one with the gold vault underneath. That's a little bit strange to me. I'm allowed to question that without having the the the my opposition say that I'm just a crazy conspiracy theorists or ivermectin.
00:58:39:24 - 00:58:50:04
Speaker 4
Obviously, like ivermectin has been literally one of the most amazing things to help people for like the last year and a half. And we had we had we had to have underground protocols to help people that actually had COVID get.
00:58:50:04 - 00:58:51:12
Speaker 1
It from overseas. You couldn't with.
00:58:51:12 - 00:59:04:05
Speaker 4
Help. We've helped a lot of our crew, a lot of our medical crew people and connected with in Texas have literally helped hundreds of thousands of people and weren't allowed to talk about it publicly. But it literally was with Ivermectin, which was called a horse dorm room, which is clearly not, you know, things like that.
00:59:04:05 - 00:59:24:24
Speaker 1
Yeah. Yeah. That is every single show. I mean, how could Rachel MADDOW be so such an idiot and everybody had so much DNC to go around and say that over and over again? You're not going to take a horse or horse medicine, are you, when it clearly has a human to human brands and human applications. You know.
00:59:25:08 - 01:00:05:02
Speaker 3
I mean, I think I think it's pretty simple. It's like respect, you know what I mean? Like you're allowed to question whatever the hell you want about 911 on this. But what I notice is the do question. Well, no, no, no, no, no, no. Well, that's that's a that's a different like systemic corporate issue. I think the issue is and this goes back again to talking about being accountable on both sides of the coin is like just because you don't believe in vaccines or you think that there is a government interference or government play into this, all of a sudden the people that did die completely innocently are completely forgotten about in the agenda of
01:00:05:03 - 01:00:30:00
Speaker 3
whatever political talking points you on social media or they on news media want to talk about, and they completely like just, you know, sweep it under the rug. And they're like, oh, 3000 people died. Maybe there's a government behind it and maybe, you know, it's like, oh, something don't matter. And that's that's to me where I think that happens on both sides, where it's like, now anyone who takes a vaccine is an idiot or a pussy or this.
01:00:30:00 - 01:00:49:05
Speaker 3
And it's like, well, no, like a lot of people had completely legitimate say no. So so what I'm saying is it's just like it goes from maybe there's a gray area to. No, no, no, I'm here and you're there. There's nothing in between. And why should we even talk about it? Because, you know, you're an idiot and I'm just dumb even trying to listen to you to explain.
01:00:49:06 - 01:00:56:08
Speaker 3
It's like, No, no, every issue should be looked at as an issue, maybe, or dismissed, but can't. Just like it's not non-binary.
01:00:56:08 - 01:01:03:07
Speaker 4
People get lose. We get lost in binary. When there's nuance, there's every single thing has infinite, infinite shades of detail on that.
01:01:03:07 - 01:01:04:21
Speaker 2
Yeah. Sorry.
01:01:04:21 - 01:01:07:02
Speaker 4
That's about. That's about it. Just, just the whole binary thing.
01:01:07:17 - 01:01:29:15
Speaker 2
Yeah. On the point of nuance, I mean, the confirmation bias you have to watch out for is, is pretty apparent, for example, when you're talking about something like IV or like something about when we were talking about 911, which was such an unprecedented event, there's going to be all sorts of phenomena that seem that seem very curious and raise a lot of questions.
01:01:29:15 - 01:01:50:07
Speaker 2
But it was also such an unprecedented event that we have nothing to compare to. There's going to be all sorts of strange things that have happened around it. Ivermectin has been around for 40 some odd years, treated people safely, and so suspicion and of policy is valid in some cases. And in some cases it's less valid or I mean, you can still have the suspicion, but it's less credible.
01:01:50:15 - 01:02:03:13
Speaker 2
So it doesn't mean so it's not like it's one position. I'm just suspicious of all things government tells me or all government events, it's like, Well, then you're not being honest with yourself. It's like Ivermectin calling it horse de Wormer. Obviously nonsensical checking.
01:02:03:15 - 01:02:10:00
Speaker 1
The government starts telling me something. I start questioning its legitimacy, especially when the government's trying to sell me something.
01:02:11:02 - 01:02:16:05
Speaker 2
I understand, but. But, but. It's apples and oranges in some cases where they're so not comparable.
01:02:16:09 - 01:02:24:16
Speaker 1
And so these are all great points. I want to pick one subject that I want to talk to you about, and we're running out of time. And I really wanted to get to this.
01:02:25:18 - 01:02:42:12
Speaker 3
I just have one really funny thing before you introduce. I just thought of, you know, I don't have a great TV network. I think the White House should have their own infomercial network where they're just trying to sell you whatever the most recent bullshit, right. Policy or product or government agency they're just trying to convince you is actually doing a good job.
01:02:42:22 - 01:02:47:01
Speaker 3
I think that would be a great way. C-SPAN meets Lifetime TV Network.
01:02:47:11 - 01:02:56:01
Speaker 2
Hello, I'm Dr. Anthony Fauci. And I want to talk about severe weather now and try for your five month trial.
01:02:57:11 - 01:02:59:11
Speaker 1
Does it work? Okay, guys.
01:03:00:08 - 01:03:02:18
Speaker 4
I'm glad you got my message. I got I got to dip in a sec.
01:03:03:00 - 01:03:03:09
Speaker 1
Okay.
01:03:03:09 - 01:03:05:14
Speaker 2
What easy boosters of 1099.
01:03:05:20 - 01:03:30:15
Speaker 1
We're going to finish up really soon. I just want to share the screen really quick. The queen's funeral. But is this a sign Biden sits 14 rows back at Queen Elizabeth's funeral? This picture right here, is this a sign of America in decline? Look at him all the way in the back. When have you ever not seen a president of the United States in this very front row at any world event?
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Speaker 1
And we're going to close on this. And I want the panel to everybody have a final, final thought, and then we'll close because people got to hop off and we'll start with you, Zach. What's your thoughts on this?
01:03:44:18 - 01:03:49:07
Speaker 3
I mean, he made it to his state or to a state that's pretty good.
01:03:50:15 - 01:03:51:23
Speaker 1
For him that he actually you know.
01:03:52:13 - 01:03:53:11
Speaker 3
Yeah, I.
01:03:53:11 - 01:03:56:22
Speaker 1
Put him in the back. Back the bathroom in the middle of the ceremony.
01:03:57:17 - 01:04:18:01
Speaker 3
Yeah, well, my bet in Vegas was 50 vaccine. Why make it so I lost this money. But no, I mean, it's pretty frickin obvious. Well, I think the world right now is going down a scary path, like Europe is in a scary place without power. And, you know, real, real, real things are happening. So it isn't trivial at all.
01:04:18:01 - 01:04:35:11
Speaker 3
I don't think it's really hard without leadership. And it's really sad that we went through three elections in a row with, you know, I'm not going to say Trump was a bad president, but he wasn't the best leader of the entire country, you know, and we were left with him, Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden, for the last 12 years.
01:04:35:11 - 01:04:59:19
Speaker 3
And it's like it's hard because so inundated with media that it's unfortunate that people do give these leaders are so much like, you know agency over their own lives because they really shouldn't have any. But this is the saying. I mean, we have to figure who doesn't know what's going on. And worse, his vice president is is is scarier because she kind of knows what's going on but doesn't know how to do anything about it.
01:05:00:03 - 01:05:10:06
Speaker 3
And it's like, so yeah, they're like, yeah, let's just put them in the back. They're not going to say anything. Trump would have just walked up to the front and kissed the open casket. I would have been like, I missed it. You're such a.
01:05:10:06 - 01:05:11:10
Speaker 1
Good guy, really, to grab.
01:05:11:10 - 01:05:12:10
Speaker 2
The open casket.
01:05:12:10 - 01:05:22:19
Speaker 1
But he grabbed the casket right by the wooden handles. Deepak, what are your what is your thought seeing that picture, does that make you feel that America is in decline?
01:05:23:18 - 01:05:36:24
Speaker 4
I mean, I don't really make that much meaning out of certain things like that. I mean, I look at each leader has a different level of energy and power. I look at, you know, Trump as someone who had a lot of charisma, a lot of energy. And so I don't see him doing that. I see him being more of a front kind of person.
01:05:36:24 - 01:05:53:15
Speaker 4
I see Biden is more of like a kind of a shadow puppet and kind of walking dead kind of guy who's not necessarily like making his own clear thoughts. It is what it is. And like, kind of the joke that Zach said, the fact they made two assists, you know, a miracle. So, you know, but I don't really think of that as like a big a big he got to make a huge meaning out of that.
01:05:53:15 - 01:06:02:11
Speaker 4
Just one image. I think there's other things that we can use to make meaning about what's going on. But I wouldn't necessarily go to I wouldn't get too deep on that image necessarily myself.
01:06:02:22 - 01:06:04:17
Speaker 1
I Amy, your thoughts?
01:06:04:20 - 01:06:37:20
Speaker 2
I'd have to agree with Deepak on that. Mainly because maybe a few years ago I would have been like all about yeah. Piling on on that point. But respectfully, there is there's this conversation that's going on as to why we're so divided, why are people not able to talk to each other? And I recently turn on Fox News like, like this morning for the first time in years and you start to see how a lot of these conversations, you know, in the age of podcasts when people are having actual conversations and Rogan's the most popular podcast podcaster and 11 million listeners are tuning in for long form in-depth conversations.
01:06:38:01 - 01:06:58:17
Speaker 2
You start to see that you can have a really good point to be made that gets that gets muddied by like focusing in on on stuff that maybe is tongue in cheek and silly. It could be very true. America is in decline in that Biden is and it is true like you, there's a lot of weakness in Biden and and I think there are substantive cases to be made for that.
01:06:58:17 - 01:07:15:06
Speaker 2
But when you point to pictures like this, if I'm taking it as a serious point, it means that anyone you're trying to persuade won't take you seriously. Because then it's like when you watch Fox and HANNITY goes, Obama golfing again for, you know, it's like, is that the issue or is that just like a distractive point you're making?
01:07:15:06 - 01:07:34:22
Speaker 2
It's a point to to point out real critiques and real criticisms and also the refusal to give credit where it is due. And I'm not I'm not here about to give Biden credit for anything. I'm just saying that if you focus on these things and we're not clear that we're being tongue in cheek and funny about people, we lose credibility with anyone who's maybe able to dialog with us in a constructive way.
01:07:34:24 - 01:07:57:11
Speaker 2
And we've lost that ability to have constructive conversations around real issues. And and I know it's fun to have these committee conversations and I'm all about it, but I just think it's also something to be aware of that one of the reasons the conversation and the dialog between different people and the marketplace of ideas is so in decline and toxic is because, you know we're mimicking each other to the point to to to oblivion.
01:07:57:15 - 01:08:10:13
Speaker 4
Because then we're like looking for something to point the finger about versus actually having a real conversation is like now we're like looking to be blaming people and that's not where you want to be. You want to be on the like again, like we talked about, you want to give credit where credit's due and you want to hold accountability where accountability is due.
01:08:10:13 - 01:08:15:01
Speaker 4
But if you start like just looking to blame when it becomes one sided, then you're doing the same thing they're doing, you know.
01:08:15:10 - 01:08:38:06
Speaker 1
Yeah. And to give credit where credit is due, I want to say even though she does it for the most selfish purposes ever, you know, she doesn't want to lose or investments in Taiwan. I do think at certain points, Nancy Pelosi did did impress me a little bit with her pushing back on Taiwan on the Taiwan Taiwanese issue, a little bit stroking the war of the war with China.
01:08:38:06 - 01:08:48:07
Speaker 1
And I would have been much more comfortable if Trump pushed the war with China. But nonetheless, I give credit where credit is due, and I think that's a very fair point.
01:08:49:05 - 01:08:57:24
Speaker 2
Yeah. I mean, you follow that stuff more closely, but I just think in general, the image. Yeah. Is this the sign that America is in decline? Probably not. But that is certainly a conversation.
01:08:57:24 - 01:08:58:07
Speaker 3
Well, we're.
01:08:58:23 - 01:09:07:17
Speaker 2
Happening. And when we point to this, I only my only concern is that people see that point being made and be like, you guys are not you guys are just looking for anything to support a perspective.
01:09:07:17 - 01:09:17:04
Speaker 1
I do think that Benny Johnson, I think looks for anything is I watch his Instagram he'll pull out these things are you never believe what Biden said and it's right that's.
01:09:17:04 - 01:09:20:13
Speaker 3
How people get that's how people get clickbait. Yeah. Yeah.
01:09:20:16 - 01:09:40:16
Speaker 1
All right, guys, I'm going to wrap this up on this was a great show. You guys are all welcome back on. We could continue the same exact panel, the three of you guys. We could go deeper again. But we only have about an hour segment. I want to point everybody out where they can find you. And then because we have such a talented musician with Deepak, I'm going to allow Deepak to play us out on a on a on a on a brilliant clip.
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Speaker 1
So if the panel. Amy, where can people find you?
01:09:46:02 - 01:10:03:18
Speaker 2
You can follow me at Infowars. You can follow me at AJ Dash comedy Instagram a.k.a Amy Kozak Official on Instagram YouTube Tik Tok I have a band called Distant Cousins. We also make a lot of music and, have a lot of fun right now.
01:10:03:18 - 01:10:07:13
Speaker 1
Should avoid robot nature, distant cousins, that unbelievable band.
01:10:07:13 - 01:10:10:18
Speaker 3
Right here and distant cousins. Yeah, I know. I know. You guys are scarce. I know.
01:10:10:18 - 01:10:20:22
Speaker 2
So you can follow me there. I'm also the host of the Buckle Up podcast with Mike and Amy, where we do similar things to this, having conversations and having having a good time.
01:10:20:22 - 01:10:22:16
Speaker 1
Where can they find the Buckle Up podcast.
01:10:22:21 - 01:10:26:17
Speaker 2
And buckle up pod on Instagram, YouTube and Tik Tok.
01:10:26:19 - 01:10:31:18
Speaker 1
Zach Ration is famous director writer where can find you.
01:10:33:03 - 01:10:51:16
Speaker 3
You can check out my movie Knife Core on Amazon Prime and that's like Knife Corporation. It's a fun, ridiculous horror movie. Otherwise I've got a couple other projects coming, but they are large in scale and will take time, so can't really talk about it. But I think if I'm in L.A. sometimes beach volleyball.
01:10:52:01 - 01:10:57:22
Speaker 1
And Deepak and what's robot nature, what's on the horizon for robot nature only shows.
01:10:58:03 - 01:11:10:09
Speaker 4
It's just a feature, man. There is no robot nature. Again, it is deep creature. I am solo. You can find me at Deepak future spell deep arc future if you go to robot nature that comment well forward to Deepak future.
01:11:11:10 - 01:11:16:23
Speaker 1
From the old man and robot it is robot.
01:11:16:23 - 01:11:18:05
Speaker 4
Pass robot.
01:11:18:05 - 01:11:41:07
Speaker 1
Based on that note I am going to play out a video from Deepak Future. And again, my name is Adam King. Thank you, everybody, for coming in to the Adam King show. This is a really great show. Thank our great guests, Amy Kodak, Zach, Gretchen and Deepak, Grandpa Ian. Thank you, everybody. 5 minutes.
01:11:41:19 - 01:11:45:08
Speaker 5
But I like to bring to the stage right now to talk to the.
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Speaker 1
Put your arms in the sky to freedom. La la la la la la la.
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Speaker 5
It's not my thing that you got. It's not there ain't nothing down. She I swear to God it was just for me. Baby story said he said he t shirt now it's his movie I'm going. It's always a big story. He said face to face. You take shot. I'm guilty. My name is. He saw me story when he was making TV shows and we take five and it's always been slow place getting to to take a chance this is who we are.
01:13:34:20 - 01:13:41:11
Speaker 5
Make some noise watching us. We wanted to thank you all so much.
01:13:41:11 - 01:13:47:16
Speaker 1
Make some noise for the Adam King show. Adam Killer. Thank you, everybody. Goodnight.
01:13:48:03 - 01:13:48:20
Speaker 2
Goodnight.
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Speaker 1
I'd like to welcome everybody to the Adam King show. I am Adam King, your host joined with the one and only Rock. Chris Rock. How you doing? It's been a long time since we've had our last show and I'm excited to be back. Yeah, I'm doing really good. Thanks. I'm. I'm glad that I'm back as well. What's the weather like on the East Coast?
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Speaker 1
Well, today.
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Speaker 2
Was really, really, really, really nice.
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Speaker 1
Couldn't ask for any better weather. 72 degrees. Perfect. Yeah, it's been about 75 here in Southern California. Perfect weather. Everything is great. No complaints. The news cycle has been quiet. Not so many things happening, which is good. And it's really unusual. They're building up. They're waiting. They're waiting to get a little closer to elections before they really dump zombie apocalypse on us.
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Speaker 1
You see that 60 minute with Joe Biden where he said what, inflation? It's only going up 3.1%. No, I didn't happen to see it, but I did see all the comments in regard to what he said. I wish we had a. I wish we had a regional idea. One, when he he was confused with the 1% that he was involved in.
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Speaker 1
Exactly. Exactly. He is that 1%. I'm going to throw up one meme for us really quick. Sure. To describe our economy. I never seen a better depiction of that than this. You. That's the way they. Me, everybody. But this is this is what America has become right now. It's a it's a it's a cesspool of absolute failing companies and billionaires as the president chastises his enemies.
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Speaker 1
Now, what? What a really nice guy. I love the press. What a schmuck, right? What a really filthy schmuck. Am I allowed to say a piece of shit? You could say whatever you want, man. Thank you. Well, you know, I just said it so well. On that note, I'm going to bring in our panel and we've got a great panel tonight full of comedians, musicians, entertainers, not less politics, more fun tonight.
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Speaker 1
How do you like that? I'm really looking forward to it. Have a great show. I'm right here if you need me. Thanks, Rock. I'll see you soon. Very good. Right. And as our panel slowly creeps in, we have. Joining us tonight all the way from New Jersey, the Holy Land, world famous impersonator, America's that guy. I don't even know which person to say that you're impersonating the most.
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Speaker 1
These days, it's either Gary Vaynerchuk or Jordan Peterson, but the list is endless. I think you can impersonate anybody. I think you can even probably take over and be me for the rest of the show. We have writer director Zach Gration, producer of several films, probably one of the funniest people I know, and lead singer of Robot Nature, Deepak, Grandpa Ian.
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Speaker 1
How are you guys all doing today?
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Speaker 2
Great.
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Speaker 3
Thank God. I thought I thought I was the lead singer of some band and I was like, oh, I was like, I don't I'm not prepared to answer any questions, but I guess.
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Speaker 4
I'm not even the lead singer or anything. I'm just a solo guy and in the future. But I mean, I think we're all living in the illusion of being a lead singer, of a fantasy world that we could all be in the lead singer together of.
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Speaker 1
Also, maybe.
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Speaker 4
This is the band right here.
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Speaker 2
World famous impersonator. I'm not so sure. But in your world, maybe. I think by the end of the episode, Adam, I'll have I'll have you down. Will all five.
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Speaker 4
Of all five of us. I know who you are by the end of the show.
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Speaker 1
Good. Yeah.
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Speaker 2
And all five of us had to correct your descriptions of us.
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Speaker 1
Boom. All right, you know what? And we'll all be a.
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Speaker 4
Band, and Adam will be the lead singer.
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Speaker 1
Listen, we could. We could. We could put together a song right now, guys. We could. We could change the world in song. We got army behind you. Look at all these instruments. I mean.
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Speaker 3
I know what you do.
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Speaker 1
What do you play most on? What's your what's your lead instrument?
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Speaker 2
I'm a vocalist and bassist. Those are my two main.
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Speaker 3
And then do you specialize exclusively in canceled mainstream impersonation? I guess, Gary, Gary's our canceled. Never mind.
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Speaker 2
Yeah, no, I do. I do feel like the zoom room is like canceled. Anonymous. I don't know what's going on. Adam hosting the underground for canceled people even though none of us are yet. But maybe that's what happens here.
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Speaker 1
You know, I didn't get canceled, but I got Shadow Band. And, you know, I'll tell you.
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Speaker 2
How, as Gary would say, honestly, save your shadow bad. That's it. Excuse, right, Adam? That's an excuse, right? Stop complaining, okay? With Gary as a real shit. Stop complaining. You're not shadow band, okay? You're lazy.
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Speaker 1
Okay, I'm lazy. All right? I'm lazy. Right? I'll fix it. I'll fix it. Geez, you have to pay marketing budget. Not kidding me, but seriously, I want to play some clips of the two of you. I mean, you just got back on tour. You just got off the tour with Gary, right? Tell us about the tour.
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Speaker 2
Yeah, I wouldn't. Yeah, we Gary initiated this inaugural conference for his NFT holders, the holders of his original NFT that he rolled out called the friends and he put together a conference basically around Nfts that took place a few months back in Minneapolis at Viking Stay at the big football stadium there. And it was a very cool conference where they basically had all these different, you know, celebrities that are getting involved with Nfts and like Spike Lee was there, Snoop Dogg, Pharrell, Logan, Paul, all these people I.
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Speaker 1
Had seen with Tom Cruise, that was hilarious.
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Speaker 2
Yeah, that was that was a different thing. But the way I got there was I've been doing a lot of one of my reoccurring bits is Gary Vee impressions on Tik Tok, Instagram and YouTube. And you do enough of that stuff on Tik Tok and it's a pretty powerful platform in that it can reach a lot of people and eventually reached his team.
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Speaker 2
And we had a correspondence and we basically did a big opening ceremony sketch with me and other impersonator, comedian and Gary Vee himself. And we did a whole opening ceremony of the conference and kicked things off with I'm going to play that with a bunch of shtick.
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Speaker 1
Go ahead.
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Speaker 3
Play the clip.
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Speaker 1
I'm going to play that clip for you. You could talk a little bit while I find it. I got to play the clip and figure out where I.
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Speaker 2
Emailed you a clip. But it was it was a lot of fun and it was very cool because I actually I'm not I'm not I, I kind of follow one of these just from a distance. I don't really I'm not involved in it. But as a comedian, it was a it was like prime schtick on steroids. And I've been preparing for my whole life doing synagogue dinners and whatnot.
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Speaker 2
And this was just right up my alley.
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Speaker 1
Did you get to meet a lot of the NFT holders?
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Speaker 2
Yeah, yes, I actually somebody made me one. Check this out here. I'll, I'll grab this I yeah. Please add one thing to someone just like happened to be and he like we bumped into this one guy who an NFT artist who drew this for me on the spot and I'm number 149. He was giving out like 200 of these and it's actually an NFT with a QR code.
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Speaker 2
You scan it. So this is the only one I own because I because it was a cool experience.
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Speaker 1
That it was great.
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Speaker 2
And he gave it to me.
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Speaker 1
So that was fun. That clip. I'm going to play that clip right now and let the audience.
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Speaker 2
While there was a cool experience, as you'll see.
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Speaker 1
Enter the gallery verse v con. I'm going to play the on stage show first. Yeah, sure. Here we go.
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Speaker 2
Please welcome Gary Vaynerchuk. Okay. My name is Gary Fator, Top Series two. So I'm happy to be the only real authentic Gary. We check one, two. Hold on 1/2 for you. I'm Gary did series three five for you. Yeah, it's a pro. Like I'm not the only Gary. Nope. There's two of us. Yep. Like real patients. Fuck, yeah.
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Speaker 2
Push back out. But that's what I think it did.
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Speaker 5
Jack, when I say link, did you say end link linked.
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Speaker 2
Open heart fist bump. Hi can I get a hint of that? Some real shit. Fucking delicious.
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Speaker 1
That didn't start when he came out. I love the part when Gary comes out and you say Daddy's here.
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Speaker 2
Yeah, yeah. I think that might be the next clip. But if you go to my YouTube channel on my Instagram or Twitter, you'll find all the clips about about Viacom.
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Speaker 3
I don't want to I don't want to speak ill of the other impersonator. But positively speaking, you are way superior in my head.
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Speaker 1
How does that guy even resemble Gary Vee?
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Speaker 2
Well, it does. It does it from a different angle, you know, some more exaggerated, different kind of version. And I do a.
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Speaker 3
Gary the.
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Speaker 1
He blog. You pay attention to Gary Vieira.
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Speaker 4
I follow him better yeah.
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Speaker 1
I think I follow him mostly through on his Instagram. I think that's like the only access I have to Gary Vee. He appeared.
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Speaker 4
He appeared a lot more definitely when NFT started getting wild for sure.
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Speaker 1
Yeah, we got rich off of that. I mean, Zach, you work for a an NFT project, correct? Are you on an NFT project?
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Speaker 3
I mean, I own a few NFT is and I am building an NFT based entertainment company. Yes. And then I also work with a company that is building NFT related stuff that I definitely can't talk about because this is on the Internet. I didn't travel, but definitely what I'm building is is really geared to just make artists have more opportunities and way better content than a lot of things that we were currently seeing.
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Speaker 1
Because I love your background. Can you explain your background to us?
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Speaker 3
Well, I am one of the Venezuelans for the vineyard. I have joined the I've joined the group. We're a small group, only 51 of us at this point. But, you know, I support whatever journey we take, whether it's from Venezuela to Martha's Vineyard or back to Florida, you know, cause I'm a I'm a that is me. I want to put that in.
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Speaker 1
That is hilarious. Did you say departed? What was your take on the whole Martha's Vineyard shtick?
00:11:03:12 - 00:11:06:03
Speaker 4
I don't even know if I saw it. I got I got to catch up. What's going on.
00:11:06:03 - 00:11:29:06
Speaker 1
Here? Out of the loop. I appreciate that you're not paying attention to the news. It's refreshing that not everybody's glued to their TVs. Basically, Ron DeSantis sent 50 illegal immigrants to Martha's Vineyard and the Liberals had a shit fit and sent 125 least. Even though Martha's Vineyard is a what are they called? Sanctuary.
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Speaker 4
Sanctuary, the sanctuary.
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Speaker 1
And they deported them.
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Speaker 3
Within within about 48 hours of them arriving. They were deported. And and Ron DeSantis was accused of, you know, playing playing games with these people's lives, even though it's pretty clear that he was sending them to a very safe place versus just allowing people like was I don't know. I thought it was a brilliant and hilarious political move.
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Speaker 2
Well, to be fair, he was playing games.
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Speaker 1
But, you know.
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Speaker 2
He it both things can be true.
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Speaker 3
Yeah. Yeah.
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Speaker 4
It sounds like a pretty smart move to shine. Reflexive hypocrisy moves at everybody.
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Speaker 2
So I don't think I don't think the intentions were humanitarian as much as shining a light on the hypocrisy on the left, which he clearly did. And also what people it's kind of a it's kind of has a bit of cringe to go around because you're like, okay, but you didn't do this for the reasons you're claiming you did this.
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Speaker 2
You did it to play the game. And it's it was a it was a, you know, he landed the punch.
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Speaker 1
You know.
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Speaker 4
He was part of the sound like part of the shtick, even saying it was for humanitarian purposes.
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Speaker 2
What's that.
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Speaker 4
Sounds like? That's part of the shtick is even claiming it's humanitarian. It's clearly was. It sounds like a good shtick.
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Speaker 2
Yeah. Yeah. The only issue is that if you're if we're all being honest with ourselves, like, you know, I guess, you know, these people in the middle of it are real people trying to figure things out and to be use this political pawns. It's a fair critique to say that you did that, but it's also equally fair to say.
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Speaker 1
You know, but the estimates, they're saying that over 10 million people have come into this country since Joe Biden took power. And, you know, that's bigger than the U.S. Army. Just to put it in the scope of the US Army has 1.4 million soldiers, right.
00:13:14:13 - 00:13:18:11
Speaker 2
I'm just curious when you say there, who are you talking about, Adam.
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Speaker 1
Which there.
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Speaker 2
You said they're saying.
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Speaker 1
The news.
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Speaker 2
Newsmax or CNN.
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Speaker 1
And actually they said that almost 2 million have come in this. They had a record 2 million in one month.
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Speaker 3
Well, definitely a lot. No, definitely a lot. I mean, you're definitely right. They were they were I mean, these people had cameras in their face and they got carded. However, it was like, what else? How else are you going to prove the point? You know what I mean? I think that was your point, is that you've got to play it both ways.
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Speaker 3
But I don't know, it's just how else do you even bring people together? Adam Isn't that why we're on this show?
00:13:59:05 - 00:14:11:07
Speaker 1
You bring people together through comedy. And with that said, that's sure everybody look at this name. Have you seen a meme? So perfect and poignant as this?
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Speaker 3
Is that.
00:14:13:05 - 00:14:14:10
Speaker 2
My cousin Cortez.
00:14:14:22 - 00:14:22:05
Speaker 1
That's a Casio Cortez. They took this picture of her from her time at the southern border and they superimposed it off some artist into.
00:14:24:20 - 00:14:28:09
Speaker 2
The best take I actually I saw was Tim Dillon. You guys know Tim Dillon?
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Speaker 3
No. Well, he's he always has the best take.
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Speaker 2
He said he was like, listen, people, what he did was discuss Sting. He sent these people to Martha's Vineyard. The season is over, okay? It's after Labor Day. You don't say you send them to Palm Beach, you send them somewhere nice during the winter frost. Is it okay? The season's over. It goes Memorial Day to Labor Day. Nothing's going on there anymore.
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Speaker 1
I'll tell you sometimes Zach actually helps me with some writing for the show. And when it happened, I mean, we got on the phone, we were going crazy. Zach had the most brilliant idea ever to do a skit of the top five things that migrant Venezuelans can do in Martha's Vineyard. Before we even got to the show, they were out of Martha's Vineyard and the joke can't be.
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Speaker 3
Yeah, it was like when a guy was the nanny the next day. I like that your chicken doing is also like a little bit. Trump is probably in the same family kind of.
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Speaker 2
Trump's a little bit different folks. Quite a little bit there. A little bit difference. I do the heads, the hands are similar. They're a little similar. Not quite the same. I could do that in I could do that. But that's okay. It's okay. Very Adam gig.
00:15:39:04 - 00:15:49:21
Speaker 3
Who's your friend? Who's your favorite person to impersonate? Doesn't need to be a marketable impression. It doesn't need to make any money. But who is it is like your favorite. Because I was a really good Trump.
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Speaker 2
Yeah, I think there are better Trump's than me out there as far as impressions go. Yeah, I don't know if that's all right. I get that question a lot, but I don't have a favorite. I guess whoever is the funniest at the time that I'm enjoying doing, because like you do, if you do an impression and then people really like it, you do it a lot.
00:16:07:14 - 00:16:10:17
Speaker 2
It can get you can wear it out on yourself and it's not so fresh anymore.
00:16:11:01 - 00:16:13:14
Speaker 1
But everything is worn out on you.
00:16:14:16 - 00:16:29:14
Speaker 2
Oh I once I had VidCon and then some I you got to take breaks a little bit but it's more about where I can find the funniest bits because the impression is sort of the sugar on top of the cake. I always kind of write sketches and bits with the impression being something that enhances what I'm doing, but it's really like, where's the funny?
00:16:30:05 - 00:16:38:15
Speaker 2
You know? Like an impression is fun, but it can be a hacky party trick if it's just like, Look at me, I'm Donald Trump or whatever. But if you do like.
00:16:38:23 - 00:16:40:17
Speaker 1
Sick of the Donald Trump impression, but if you.
00:16:40:17 - 00:16:45:13
Speaker 2
Do it in a funny way, like write it into a bit, that much more interested in that. So like, you know.
00:16:45:24 - 00:16:48:19
Speaker 1
Did you do comedy at all or is it just music by you?
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Speaker 4
I mean, I've done comedy, but not you know, it's just sort of like in the moment, in the fly, like being on being in sketches or being, you know, being in theater. It's things like that. A lot of it's in the moment. A lot of it's like we're hanging out and stuff like this. Jokes come up, you know, it's got to be in the flow.
00:17:03:24 - 00:17:10:10
Speaker 4
But it's, it's not something I've like, actively, like, all right, I'm going to do comedy and then go create it. You know, I've just it's more organically appeared, you know.
00:17:10:10 - 00:17:33:08
Speaker 1
Guys, I want you to know that this is one of the most talented musicians I've ever seen. Deepak actually lost his house in the Woolsey fire and as like an arm edge to the fire, he recorded a music video. I wish I had that music video to play here. And we'll post a link on the on the on the YouTubes and the rambles and all the streaming channels because it's so brilliant.
00:17:33:14 - 00:17:53:18
Speaker 1
But he's a violinist and he plays this this melody. And I think that's when I really fell in love with your music. And I'm actually going to play a clip of Robot Nature so that people can understand what robot nature is. But before I get into that clip, you know, it takes brilliance to truly make art. And deep rock is one of the smartest people that I've met.
00:17:53:18 - 00:18:20:12
Speaker 1
In fact, not only is he such a free thinker, but a tremendous patriot, he organizes every year. A And you guys are like this because you're both Jewish like me. A Sarah Ammonia reading of the Declaration of Independence on the 4th of July. It's kind of like the megillah of the of the 4th of July. And I went this year and I was so touched by what started that for you.
00:18:21:20 - 00:18:35:23
Speaker 4
It's actually started 20 years ago and a bunch of friends of mine, we were just kind of joking. I'm like, It's July 4th. So like, what is this July 4th? What's the purpose of it? Where did even come from? We didn't remember because, you know, we all went to school and may not have taken it seriously because, you know, in school you're just kind of goofing around a lot.
00:18:35:23 - 00:18:54:11
Speaker 4
So we were kind of in our teens, like in our older, you know, college type age. And we were just like, just let's what is this Declaration of Independence? We decided to read it kind of being funny. And we started reading it with funny, like British voices and just kind of but then by like halfway through it, it started actually hitting us in our bodies as an actual like this is an amazing document.
00:18:54:11 - 00:19:12:12
Speaker 4
And by the end we were actually like legitimately, genuinely serious and we were like, whoa. Like we started out literally being funny and doing impersonations and voices of what the, the, the, you know, the colonialists could have sounded like and just and all this stuff. And by the end, we were like, This is amazing. And so we just became like a yearly tradition to read, actually genuinely read it every year.
00:19:13:10 - 00:19:28:22
Speaker 4
And so we've been hosting it. You know, I've been I've been hosting it really just every year. And now, now that I'm in California, I do it on the beach in front of Gladstone's every every July 4th at like 930 in the morning. We just whoever wants to come, I posted on Facebook, post it on Instagram and people show up and, you know, we read it together and, you know, we talk about it.
00:19:28:23 - 00:19:37:01
Speaker 4
Maybe we have conversations, whatever. You know, it's different every year. Sometimes you play Frisbee for a while. We have people bring music and we jam. We sing patriotic songs depending on who shows up. You know.
00:19:38:03 - 00:19:44:16
Speaker 1
I'm actually going to play a clip of Robot Nature. It's about a minute long. And I want our viewers to be able to get to know the band a little.
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Speaker 4
Is this other two clips I sent? Is this the first one?
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Speaker 1
This is the first one I recall.
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Speaker 5
I don't need to tell you. Don't belong with you. Shake me when you wanted to take it down. Down, right down Santa Fe When I'm done, I stop when you like it, right? Look at time. Yes, it's sappy.
00:21:03:13 - 00:21:09:21
Speaker 1
That's good stuff, man. I love fusion. Sound like that. Nice. Very cool. So, yeah.
00:21:09:21 - 00:21:27:20
Speaker 4
So, I mean, I'm pretty much like since the lockdowns, the band's been like people have been kind of split up. The band's moving around some pretty much going all solo now. But I still like, you know, all the songs were written, you know, and I can do them. I can do them solo anyway. So I'm still doing the robot nature like songs and tons of new ones, a lot more disco stuff.
00:21:27:20 - 00:21:29:07
Speaker 4
But, you know.
00:21:29:16 - 00:21:30:11
Speaker 1
In the near future.
00:21:30:17 - 00:21:31:21
Speaker 4
This rock and what's that again?
00:21:32:02 - 00:21:33:13
Speaker 1
What are you working on in the near future?
00:21:33:19 - 00:21:57:09
Speaker 4
Right now, the solo stuff is a lot more, you know, disco dance oriented, still kind of the same vibe. It's the more of a one man band set up. I've got like it's like a fusion between live looping, multi instruments, piano, drums, bass, guitar beats, a little bit of laptops. Those are almost like DJ meets, live looping meets, you know, one man band like dance kind of dance stuff, but some of the same, some of the same tracks you've heard are being being revamped with a little bit more of like a future Michael Jackson sound to them.
00:21:57:18 - 00:21:59:21
Speaker 4
And then a bunch of new songs I read the last year and a half.
00:22:00:03 - 00:22:12:24
Speaker 1
So if you lost the last three, your other band members, does that mean that there's an open audition? Because I see three people right here that want to be a part of Robot Nature, 80 oh oh.
00:22:13:03 - 00:22:22:12
Speaker 3
Only it's the barber. I mean, if the barber for the band is still around. And does he look like he was working hard? You guys you guys all had very sophisticated haircuts and know.
00:22:23:04 - 00:22:33:11
Speaker 1
I've been to one of Deepak shows, and I'm telling you, they look like they came out of a spaceship crossed with a TV from the 1980s. It's it's their wardrobes are so on point.
00:22:34:04 - 00:22:36:17
Speaker 3
You know, like it looks like a really fun.
00:22:36:19 - 00:22:42:00
Speaker 1
And is anything that you're doing Burning Man inspired? I know Burning Man is a really big part of your life.
00:22:42:00 - 00:22:51:13
Speaker 4
I mean, I just love Burning Man, you know, it's it's just it's just such a vibe, such an energy. I just got back from there. The 33 shows there just got back like a week and a half ago and then went to Austin.
00:22:51:13 - 00:22:53:05
Speaker 1
Does that have to do with the Illuminati?
00:22:54:04 - 00:22:57:00
Speaker 4
No, I don't. I mean I mean, maybe. I don't know. I think everything does.
00:22:57:07 - 00:22:58:22
Speaker 1
I mean, you've got an Alex calculus.
00:23:00:03 - 00:23:11:16
Speaker 2
Everything hasn't really you know what they're doing it. You know they're doing a Burning Man. Look at me like something out of. He went to Burning Man and they turn. All the frogs are Burning Man. That's what they're doing. They're turning the bronze guy and he's going to burn them, man where Hillary Clinton was putting on a secret performance.
00:23:11:16 - 00:23:12:03
Speaker 3
Inside of.
00:23:12:03 - 00:23:26:03
Speaker 2
His show, that show that you just played, that clip, Hillary Clinton was backstage and she was organizing an entire thing with the Illuminati. I knew it because I was there. I saw the folks. I have a secret camera at his concert at Burning Man for me, and I've seen the papers look under the stuff in the nineties. Okay?
00:23:26:07 - 00:23:27:02
Speaker 2
I'm not making this up.
00:23:27:15 - 00:23:35:04
Speaker 1
But look, look, 33 shows that remains quite impressive. How do you do 33 shows in a in a in like a week's time?
00:23:35:16 - 00:23:49:14
Speaker 4
Yeah. I mean, it's just kind of Burning Man's a crazy place. There's a lot of stuff going on. There's 80,000 people there. And the thing about Burning Man, it's not like there's, you know, like these other festivals you go to, like Coachella, there's like four stages, like a main stage. The stage Burning Man is like everyone's making their own stages, right?
00:23:49:14 - 00:24:05:10
Speaker 4
So you've got you've got 80,000 people. There's a bunch of camps, there's hundreds and hundreds of amazing stages. And some of them are on the main player. So, you know, a lot of people just from the community, people know each other and they book there's deejays. Diplo is out there. Diplo probably had like 20 sets. You know, I jumped on DJ sets, I did solo sets.
00:24:05:10 - 00:24:21:04
Speaker 4
I was zipping around on my e-bike with the wagon attached to it with like, you know, bungee cords and all my gear, my pedal boards and just, like, bouncing around and did like five or six shows a day is not, you know, and then in a long day, there's so much activity. It's actually not that big a deal there to do that, you know, I mean, I've done I've done ten shows a day Burning Man before.
00:24:21:05 - 00:24:35:16
Speaker 4
This is like I had my girl there with me this year's rides. I promised I wouldn't do 52 shows like I did another year and just, you know, we zipped around, you know, I did like, like a nighttime show at this one camp and then went to a DJ set, jumped on and played violin and just did some top line singing with the deejay, you know.
00:24:35:16 - 00:24:37:02
Speaker 4
So it was just kind of all over the place.
00:24:37:08 - 00:24:45:12
Speaker 1
Question for you about Burning Man. Do they have like a section for masked people? Are there people walking around with masks?
00:24:45:12 - 00:24:58:20
Speaker 4
They're like, maybe 1% of the people. But, you know, again, that the whole thing is Burning Man encourages freedom, which I do, too. And so I'm I encourage you, if you wish to wear it, go for it. I'm going to probably laugh with you in my mind and, you know, and figure my mouth a little bit. But it's all good.
00:24:58:20 - 00:25:09:12
Speaker 4
Do what you want to do, you know. So there was a few people there that probably had them on and some people had them on legitimately because there's dust storms there. So that's a little different. Now. There are dust storms and people wearing goggles because the.
00:25:09:12 - 00:25:20:18
Speaker 2
Dust, the dust, the dust a burning man is a total myth. That is a total myth institute about the radical left. They have put dust. They are importing dust from Mexico over the border into Burning Man. It used to not be that dusty. Why? Anything that is.
00:25:21:15 - 00:25:37:20
Speaker 1
Illegal. The dust is legal. And any of you guys going to burning them? I mean. No, never. I actually never wanted to go into like September 1st every year. Then I'm like, Oh, I should have gone. Yeah.
00:25:38:01 - 00:25:41:06
Speaker 4
About halfway through it. And you're pretty much late Monday.
00:25:42:02 - 00:25:46:22
Speaker 3
Yeah. Well, now then I get to some good festivals that I've never been a Burning Man.
00:25:47:07 - 00:26:01:05
Speaker 4
Well, that's the thing. Burning Man is, like, so different. I mean, it's hard to explain. Yeah, I'm sure everyone says it's like you can understand less. You go there, but that's what Burning Man is. It's like an experience. It's not really a festival, it's a gathering. It's basically 80,000 people popping up a city in the middle of nowhere.
00:26:01:11 - 00:26:22:10
Speaker 4
And everyone sort of gets aligned with the sort of parallel philosophy of like agreement, you know, self-reliance. Everyone's got they got their own thing. That's why I think it's a big model for everything that we are. We're about here with a lot of freedom and libertarianism, like, you know, independence, because it sort of is a a micro model, successful model of what that could look like with a bunch of different people that have different styles, different looks, different things.
00:26:22:10 - 00:26:43:05
Speaker 4
People are politically all over the map there, but somehow everyone interacts and it's a very peaceful environment. There's no arguments. There's really there's just radical self-reliance is one of the things. But also radical self-expression. Radical inclusion, like things I think could work in real society. And it's and it's effective. There's every type of music, there's every type of food, there's vegans and there's meat eaters, there's naked people, and then there's conservatives.
00:26:43:05 - 00:26:45:21
Speaker 4
Like, it's like everything you imagine, but it's working successfully.
00:26:45:21 - 00:26:49:07
Speaker 2
So basically a giant orgy is what you're saying. I get it.
00:26:49:09 - 00:26:51:09
Speaker 4
It's an it's a giant orgy. That's all it is.
00:26:51:10 - 00:26:59:10
Speaker 3
You managed you managed to find a band that fits your pronouns appropriately. I just want to make sure that was taking care of soccer.
00:26:59:10 - 00:27:00:20
Speaker 4
Anyhow, there's an airplane flying by. I said.
00:27:00:21 - 00:27:06:00
Speaker 3
Yeah, I was going to say, You managed to find a bathroom that represented your pronouns appropriately.
00:27:06:00 - 00:27:13:05
Speaker 4
Yes, I found there was sometimes there there were so many choices about bathrooms with different pronouns. It didn't take long to find it.
00:27:13:11 - 00:27:15:10
Speaker 3
27 bathrooms.
00:27:15:10 - 00:27:17:16
Speaker 4
Put a QR code on the bathroom I wanted. And then I.
00:27:18:07 - 00:27:18:11
Speaker 3
Got.
00:27:18:17 - 00:27:21:06
Speaker 4
With my bike, my e-bike, and I found it every time.
00:27:21:13 - 00:27:33:22
Speaker 1
Guys, I'm going to turn to something a little bit serious and something we can make fun of a lot. The Queen's funeral has been a nonstop source of entertainment for myself. No.
00:27:34:04 - 00:27:35:01
Speaker 3
No, no. Why?
00:27:35:18 - 00:27:59:01
Speaker 1
Well, you know, like at this clip, I'm going to play it for you guys is really simple. It's everything these people that you know, whether it's her son being involved with Jeffrey Epstein and her covering for it, I personally think the queen was the one who killed Jeffrey Epstein. I don't think the Clintons have that much reach. You know, they are the royal family.
00:27:59:01 - 00:28:16:04
Speaker 1
They like to hide in that. They're like this like remnant of the past with like a $3.5 trillion inheritance. You know, they said, oh, we make only $800 million a year that the British taxpayers give us. But really, their art collection alone is worth trillions.
00:28:16:11 - 00:28:18:18
Speaker 2
Do you really think she killed Jeffrey Epstein?
00:28:19:02 - 00:28:23:04
Speaker 1
I speculate with you separately. Speculate? You know, I speculate.
00:28:23:04 - 00:28:33:00
Speaker 2
You know that Jeffrey Fiennes young slave gets quite preposterous. I didn't like it. Let's look. We do about that.
00:28:33:00 - 00:28:42:06
Speaker 1
I wanted to do you know and let's be real. Charles is extremely involved in the great reset. Deepak, you and I were talking about the show a little bit.
00:28:42:06 - 00:28:44:11
Speaker 3
I mean there like to level set out of.
00:28:44:12 - 00:28:49:11
Speaker 1
The plan down there plandemic three. In contrast, the great awakening.
00:28:49:17 - 00:28:52:18
Speaker 2
Suicide in a jail cell. So unbelievable. Yes, yes.
00:28:52:19 - 00:28:54:00
Speaker 1
Andrew, you went.
00:28:54:00 - 00:28:54:06
Speaker 2
Down.
00:28:54:18 - 00:29:16:15
Speaker 1
I'm going to play a clip from the queen queen's procession. And I think it's quite entertaining. It's sad, actually, but she has one of her guards pass over in the middle of the session and have a seizure on the floor. And you have to ask yourself, is this vaccine related? Now I'm going to play.
00:29:16:21 - 00:29:22:15
Speaker 3
The first question of sorry.
00:29:22:15 - 00:29:31:10
Speaker 1
Ace plan. Watch that. Oh, yeah she's and and this was her her.
00:29:31:11 - 00:29:33:23
Speaker 3
And world star presents I never.
00:29:36:04 - 00:29:40:08
Speaker 1
Related definitely vaccine related. Right so many so.
00:29:40:08 - 00:29:45:06
Speaker 4
Many of those it's like there's an infinite amount of clips just like that. And it's all just isn't that.
00:29:46:05 - 00:30:00:09
Speaker 1
I encourage anybody that did take the vaccine. We're not here to hate you, but they've got the work of Doctor Carey, my dad. I'd love to get her on the show because she's doing a vaccine, detoxing. And of course, she was cancer.
00:30:00:09 - 00:30:01:23
Speaker 2
She's getting people unvaccinated.
00:30:02:12 - 00:30:05:09
Speaker 1
She's unvaccinated. And people see that, like sedating people.
00:30:05:13 - 00:30:10:14
Speaker 2
But Adam, here's the question. Are like, how do you square being so anti-vax with also being a hypochondriac?
00:30:12:05 - 00:30:12:18
Speaker 1
Well.
00:30:13:05 - 00:30:13:13
Speaker 3
Huh.
00:30:14:01 - 00:30:17:19
Speaker 1
That's a good question. Say better are you saying I'm a hypochondriac?
00:30:18:09 - 00:30:23:21
Speaker 2
A slightly. I remember when thing when this thing was rolling out, you were like, get away from me. You were the guy with the toilet paper.
00:30:23:22 - 00:30:24:15
Speaker 1
I was at the.
00:30:24:15 - 00:30:27:21
Speaker 3
Very least over the contract.
00:30:27:22 - 00:30:43:05
Speaker 2
You were the guy. And now I'm going to ask you a question. You got to be honest with yourself and with the panel. If Trump won in 2020, would you have gotten Vaxxed if it was a beautiful vaccine? It's working great, folks. I'm going to take the jab as a nation, get the jab.
00:30:43:17 - 00:31:03:00
Speaker 1
I don't take flu shots. I don't take prescription medicine. I didn't agree with Trump on the vaccine, to be honest with you. That's the one part where I look. Okay, fine, I will be back for Trump. I'm having a hard time being on Team Trump. Actually, our last show we had Roger Stone on and Darren Beattie, who was Trump's who was Trump's speechwriter.
00:31:03:12 - 00:31:20:07
Speaker 1
And you know, there was so much Trump ism on the show. And all I wanted to do was say, hey, you know, this guy fucked up. The reason why we're in this situation and lost our country was because of Trump. And the reason why everybody's vaccinated and we're still in an Emergency Authorization Use Act is because of Trump.
00:31:20:14 - 00:31:26:09
Speaker 1
He should have ended the emergency use authorization when he left and forced Biden to restart it. MM Yes.
00:31:26:09 - 00:31:30:12
Speaker 2
But do you think you would be as hostile towards vaccines if Trump won?
00:31:30:19 - 00:31:32:23
Speaker 1
You've always been hostile towards vaccines my whole life.
00:31:33:21 - 00:31:47:13
Speaker 2
Do you think that the a lot of the sentiment and distrust of the medical apparatus and the vaccine push has to do with tribal or political. The ideology more than more than medicine.
00:31:47:17 - 00:31:55:11
Speaker 1
The only reason why I ever was open to the possibility of potentially vaccinating my children was to get girls.
00:31:56:12 - 00:31:57:15
Speaker 2
Vaccinating your children?
00:31:58:12 - 00:32:10:17
Speaker 1
Yeah. I don't want to vaccinate my children, especially after this pandemic. And seeing how that the vaccine technology rolled out and the deep dives that I've done, I think I'm completely anti-vax. Now.
00:32:10:19 - 00:32:12:09
Speaker 2
You have children and didn't know about Adam.
00:32:13:06 - 00:32:15:11
Speaker 1
I wish I was unvaccinated. I mean.
00:32:15:12 - 00:32:19:18
Speaker 3
Tune in to Maury Povich next week. Adam is on and we'll find out.
00:32:19:18 - 00:32:41:18
Speaker 2
Adam's you young kids. But my point is this. I think a lot of the sentiment has to do with the fact that people felt a certain betrayal or of well, calling into question the legitimacy of 2020 is directly tied into being so hesitant about a vaccine. If Trump had won, then it would be like, we're going to defeat this COVID 50 with beautiful vaccine.
00:32:41:21 - 00:32:45:15
Speaker 2
You would have seen a lot more non hesitancy towards the vaccine.
00:32:45:16 - 00:33:09:00
Speaker 3
I'll say two things. Two things I saw in this in this ridiculous journalism that I found very comical as well was like one that specifically with the vaccine was, you know, Trump got it was like, you know endorsing it's beautiful vaccines the best vaccine you know and it's everything. And then and then, you know, Kamala Biden, all those people were like, don't take that vaccine.
00:33:09:00 - 00:33:09:21
Speaker 3
Don't take that Trump.
00:33:10:01 - 00:33:13:13
Speaker 2
Don't try to take it. I'm not taking it. Yeah.
00:33:13:17 - 00:33:28:21
Speaker 3
And then this second he was out, it wasn't even that you should take it. It was that you are to be a good American. You should take the vaccine like they would. They literally that was the narrative. And I was like, whoa, that was a huge shift in like race. And and so that's the.
00:33:28:21 - 00:33:31:15
Speaker 2
Same applies to them. I'm saying we got to keep each other always on.
00:33:31:16 - 00:33:34:05
Speaker 3
Yeah, no, no. For sure. No, no, I agree. That's why I.
00:33:34:10 - 00:33:46:14
Speaker 2
Say they became very pro-vaccine upon his losing and then they wanted to to kind of that, you know, there was a credit to be had by the medical apparatus under Biden. But I think the same aversion to the vaccine was a political reaction.
00:33:46:14 - 00:34:12:05
Speaker 3
I, I agree. And I think they they played it that way. They should have made it not they shouldn't have gone from don't do it to forcing you to take it. When it was obvious that pretty much everyone in this room more or less like we didn't need it, you know what I mean? And less and less, obviously, if someone here has a condition that we don't know about, but it's like, generally speaking, we didn't need to be first in line to do it or lose our job.
00:34:12:05 - 00:34:35:13
Speaker 3
You know, if that was that was like a little bit over the top. The other thing I notice and Adam and I have talked about this is, you know, in the height of like the just the mask wearing and the and what was called the pandemic, I don't call it the pandemic. I mean, when people were dying from COVID still, and then there were the protests that turned to riots and, you know, whatever was going on.
00:34:35:13 - 00:34:39:09
Speaker 1
And during the Democrat the Democrat riots of 2010. Sure.
00:34:39:19 - 00:35:02:22
Speaker 3
Sure. Whatever you wrote about them. But looking at it just from a narrative perspective was like, you know, anyone who went to watch anything Trump related or any sort of like or work, they were like super spreaders. And then literally and CNN and I think it was the L.A. Times, it was, you know, COVID spikes in large cities with protests, but not because of the protests.
00:35:03:02 - 00:35:25:03
Speaker 3
At the same time that he was saying that people of color were were inverse or, you know, way more disproportionately impacted by the virus. And I was like, so how are you telling a bunch of young people to go out and scream in by the thousands and that in that community, things are going up, but not because you're telling them to go scream, you know, by hundreds and thousands of people.
00:35:25:03 - 00:35:42:00
Speaker 3
And I was like, that was like I wasn't I think people had the right to go out and protest just like other people had the right to do. However they want. But don't lie to people and like pull them out of their house and like, you know, and take a really salacious, horrible event that was caught on camera and then like use that as like, oh, we've all been.
00:35:42:09 - 00:36:13:02
Speaker 2
In protests for BLM, were outside Zora. So I understand now that I totally understand. I think that's when I think that's when the whole campaign of social distancing and you're going to kill grandma if you go out and socialize. Lost all its credibility from a public health standpoint was when all of a sudden you started to see mass protests and not a word from the same medical apparatus and the same public health officials that were condemning people for getting together for weddings and funerals of loved ones and family members.
00:36:13:02 - 00:36:19:23
Speaker 2
The second the protests fit a certain narrative, all of the sudden you're worried about it. And that's, I think, all the credibility about it.
00:36:20:07 - 00:36:23:01
Speaker 1
I remember I had to go to a zoom zoom funeral.
00:36:23:02 - 00:36:26:00
Speaker 2
Yeah, I'm saying that's when the credibility, I think, on the whole was complete.
00:36:26:14 - 00:36:29:24
Speaker 1
That it wasn't that extreme.
00:36:30:15 - 00:36:45:02
Speaker 2
But that doesn't mean that that doesn't mean that when people were dying in droves in New York City, there were people who were irresponsible taking elderly people out to events that then died because of it. And you know that all those things can be proven.
00:36:45:08 - 00:36:50:03
Speaker 1
Or putting forward patients that nursing homes, whether we're putting COVID patients in.
00:36:50:03 - 00:37:09:21
Speaker 2
Nursing. Yeah, I'm just saying clearly we can all agree that for older senior citizens, I mean, we can't blame Andrew Cuomo for murder, for killing all these old people when I can't say at the same time COVID wasn't a real problem. I mean, for them it was. So it would have been much, much nicer if from the get go we could walk and chew gum at the same time and say, okay, if you're 65 and up, stay home.
00:37:09:24 - 00:37:37:23
Speaker 2
You don't have to work anymore anyway. You can get meals delivered to you if you're under that, you know, do what the Nordic countries did and they basically had comparable experiences, if not better. And we all kind of can see that in hindsight, that argument seemed to hold the most water. But at the end of the day, if because it wasn't nuanced and because everything you would say about COVID was couched in Wait a minute, you Trump supporter, because it sounds like you're being you know, like everything was couched in political as to where you stand.
00:37:38:03 - 00:37:40:02
Speaker 2
It became an impossible conversation to have.
00:37:40:13 - 00:37:57:15
Speaker 4
So I mean, and that's the thing a lot of people I work with from the beginning were everything that's now being agreed upon. Now, from the beginning, people were saying this was a disease of the elderly or the or the immunocompromised or people with preexisting conditions. And that stuff was coming up. But if you even if you mentioned that, like you just said, you'd be like, oh, you must be.
00:37:57:15 - 00:38:13:05
Speaker 4
It's it was it was attached to politics instead of just, you know, just being truthful about the information. Like you said, they can all happen at the same time, walk and chew gum. I mean, it was older people percentage wise, and it was at the same time pretty much less than or, you know, weaker than the flu also for this age group.
00:38:13:05 - 00:38:23:08
Speaker 4
And those facts can exist at the same time. But to be even to even say that you would get immediately canceled, to even claim that it was related to the flu for certain age groups, even though it clearly was.
00:38:23:20 - 00:38:25:02
Speaker 3
The conversation I.
00:38:25:02 - 00:38:57:05
Speaker 1
Actually got suspended from Facebook because I posted the FDA just a link to the FDA walking back their claims on hydroxychloroquine. And I didn't say any commentary. I just said I just posted the link and the headline to the news article was FDA now says that hydroxychloroquine can help you. And that was enough for Facebook. You know, and turning to other news, like, I don't know if you guys saw the Facebook, Joe Rogan Mark Zuckerberg interview.
00:38:57:05 - 00:38:58:06
Speaker 1
Did you guys catch that?
00:38:58:14 - 00:39:00:03
Speaker 2
Yeah, a little bit. Bits and pieces.
00:39:00:09 - 00:39:06:05
Speaker 1
Where he he pretty much says that the federal government told him what to do.
00:39:06:05 - 00:39:21:07
Speaker 2
So we got a notice from the FDA that said there would be disinformation coming down. And we have to take a look at that because we are concerned. But I don't have a perfect mask, but it's something like that. I got.
00:39:21:09 - 00:39:21:17
Speaker 1
To be.
00:39:22:01 - 00:39:30:03
Speaker 2
Normal and human and, you know, happy, trying to connect people around the world. And we have to be here.
00:39:30:20 - 00:39:36:14
Speaker 3
You just like to say you just have to stay in a perfect. We still plan your voice pretty smoothly. I think. Yeah.
00:39:36:22 - 00:39:38:23
Speaker 1
I think he did become a cyborg.
00:39:38:23 - 00:39:48:16
Speaker 2
And what we have to realize is, yeah, I did see where he admitted basically to shadow banning dissenting information. The government came to him.
00:39:48:16 - 00:40:13:23
Speaker 3
It's like no one is surprised. It's funny how I Fox News access. I was surprised about it like was the story. It's like we all like literally everybody knew it because even the truth of how this whole frickin pandemic started was a conspiracy that got censored and then was the literal truth, you know, like, it was just. I mean, so it's just it's I mean, it is what it is like.
00:40:13:23 - 00:40:27:20
Speaker 3
It's annoying and hopefully it will change. But we kind of know, I mean, I think the problem is, is like it's never been sexy to tell the truthful thing. It's never been the popular vocal.
00:40:27:24 - 00:40:32:08
Speaker 1
Unless your Alex Jones Alex Jones tells the truth and he's sexy as hell.
00:40:32:22 - 00:40:34:01
Speaker 2
Not on that.
00:40:35:07 - 00:40:45:15
Speaker 1
You know, I'll tell you if you want to go down that path and watching the Alex Jones trial. Yeah. And this guy has been apologizing for six years for Sandy Hook before he even got sued.
00:40:46:10 - 00:41:20:03
Speaker 2
I understand. Yeah. I'm just saying, I actually think before this trial came out like the Alex Alex Jones with you know, for some in some way I felt like public perception of him was shifting more towards like he less taking him seriously as a political commentator who's controversial and more like, oh, this guy's just a funny goofball. Like him being on Rogan, he was sort of going through a brand evolution of being just like, Hey, look, I'm, you know, he even said to Rogan, like, there's a quote, a meme where he goes, I'm kind of retarded, okay?
00:41:20:04 - 00:41:21:16
Speaker 1
And, you know, I saw that.
00:41:21:18 - 00:41:24:10
Speaker 2
In other words, like, this is just a crazy, kooky guy.
00:41:24:10 - 00:41:26:04
Speaker 1
So and 1255 on.
00:41:26:04 - 00:41:38:10
Speaker 2
Reddit and I'm like, I don't know how he's doing it, but over time it seemed like Alex Jones was evolving into just more of an entertainment piece. And then the Sandy Hook trial more recently in the very recent like months back into that context.
00:41:38:10 - 00:41:59:18
Speaker 1
Let's be honest, guys. And Deepak, I want your opinion on this, too, because, you know, you've really studied the Constitution at ad nauseum. I'll say, why is it a crime to question if an event took place or not, if it was a conspiracy or a hoax, like does that mean that the moon landing people now can all be sued by this?
00:41:59:20 - 00:42:00:14
Speaker 1
Offended by it?
00:42:01:09 - 00:42:17:01
Speaker 3
Well well, this. So you're asking a very loaded question because this is a very specific thing to having a bunch of kids shot and killed, which is a very distressing matter. So if the I don't know what the charges, but if the charges about.
00:42:17:08 - 00:42:19:23
Speaker 1
You know, blaming the clip, it was a 20.
00:42:20:16 - 00:42:37:20
Speaker 3
I no, no, no, no, no. I know, I know. I know like the background. But what I'm saying is in this very particular case, the ability to create I don't know what would be considered like undue stress and damages in this case is very it's like I mean, you basically just need a flip someone you know what I mean?
00:42:37:22 - 00:42:47:20
Speaker 1
Like, for example, let's take The New York Times, for example, can veterans who lost arms and legs from the Iraq war.
00:42:48:08 - 00:42:48:23
Speaker 3
They signed up.
00:42:48:23 - 00:42:54:22
Speaker 1
For our times different. The New York Times said that they had weapons of mass destruction and cost us $5 trillion and millions.
00:42:55:08 - 00:42:59:00
Speaker 2
You're asking a group of ignoramuses about law like I.
00:42:59:00 - 00:43:02:04
Speaker 1
Want to hear from you on this because he's not such an ignoramus.
00:43:02:05 - 00:43:09:03
Speaker 2
No, no. As far as that is concerned, as far as the law concerned, you're like, what's the legality of this? Because there's a lawsuit now. Okay.
00:43:09:03 - 00:43:09:12
Speaker 1
I don't want.
00:43:09:12 - 00:43:10:03
Speaker 2
To say.
00:43:10:03 - 00:43:24:15
Speaker 1
Well, but are we going to be okay? Let's not talk about the law, but let's talk about culture. And I really want to hear Deepak's opinion on this. Like, is this like like culturally, socially? Is this the path that we want to go down as a country? What do you think?
00:43:25:02 - 00:43:43:03
Speaker 4
Well, no, I mean, I've been this is this is all gray area. That's why they're that's why there even is a case, because it is on that line of like what is appropriate versus what is law, what is technically considered libel, what is going to cause stress, what what words can actually create harassment. Right. And is it compelling violence?
00:43:43:03 - 00:44:01:17
Speaker 4
Like just like, you know, like if Trump's giving a speech and he says one thing and it leads to this, people are going to have a debate of like what aspect of it actually can theoretically lead to something. And I think that's where I would lean. I personally I would lean towards as much free speech as possible. But you've got to just see where the line is, where physical harm actually starts to get.
00:44:01:17 - 00:44:31:05
Speaker 1
Cause I think that that is a part of the plan because I mean, as you saw, that Alex Jones is the first to be censored off of all media. Now, this kind of lawfare that's taking place where they're going to war against conservatives through the courts. I mean, if you look at the presidential election in 2024, the Republicans have two candidates, Donald Trump and Ron DeSantis, and now both of them are under investigation by the DOJ.
00:44:31:17 - 00:44:32:08
Speaker 1
I mean, and.
00:44:32:10 - 00:44:43:23
Speaker 4
I think I think there really is a blatant targeting, you know, that's a one sided targeting going on for sure. And I think Alex Jones is being made an example of so that they can set a precedent to do more censoring and canceling.
00:44:43:23 - 00:45:13:02
Speaker 2
Alex Jones is not being made an example of as a conservative. That's not why they're coming after Alex Jones. We can you know, I think we're talking cross-purposes here. Yes. Is there is there political targeting of political dissidents on the from the left to the right when the left is in power? I think it's pretty obvious and is big tech and even most mainstream institutions leaning to the left and therefore putting all their pulling all the resources into trying to sway the culture against conservative ideas.
00:45:13:02 - 00:45:29:16
Speaker 2
I think so. And you're seeing a response to that in the daily wire plus and play Prager U. And Young Americans for freedom and the and young people there's a there's a there's a there's a tug of war going on there for sure. In the case of Alex Jones, it's different at 70. Look, we can all agree this is low hanging fruit.
00:45:29:22 - 00:45:35:06
Speaker 2
Kids got murdered in broad daylight and he just decides to call that question. We can all say, oh, he's not right.
00:45:35:07 - 00:45:59:02
Speaker 1
Look, I'll be honest with you on this show. I will say it right now, you have all these shooting. A lot of weird shit went down, was it? I don't. But these are false flags. But the question that I have is, does the government do these? Is the CIA MK-ULTRA type programs, are they involved in these school shootings?
00:45:59:10 - 00:46:05:22
Speaker 1
We're gun control. And that's something that I think about all the time. Every time I see a school shooting, I think is the government involved? Are they trying to take guns.
00:46:06:19 - 00:46:09:22
Speaker 2
Without destroying it? That's a strange impulse where you want to check.
00:46:10:14 - 00:46:25:21
Speaker 1
On me without wasting a breath. Yeah. The second a child's blood hits and spills the ground, every Democrat is up there saying, you got to take the guns away from everybody. And nine times out of ten, it's an illegal gun that does the school shooting.
00:46:26:07 - 00:46:27:15
Speaker 2
Again, separate agencies.
00:46:27:22 - 00:46:35:23
Speaker 1
How bad is that? No gap in this whole case is because he questioned it in a 20 minute segment and they never spoke about it again.
00:46:36:04 - 00:46:49:00
Speaker 2
Okay. If that's the case and the government's so powerful, why don't they strategically, the Republicans place a school savior at every school to shoot the gun, to shoot the shooter and prove that guns also save people? I mean, there are motivated.
00:46:49:00 - 00:46:50:15
Speaker 1
Trying to get on that every.
00:46:50:15 - 00:47:12:11
Speaker 3
School I think this goes back like Amy was talking about you know how both sides have got to be accountable. And I think like in this sense, you know, there's and I would agree with Deepak, like free speech has to it's we're the only country really that even pretends to have it as a value. And sometimes we are pretending that it's value.
00:47:12:11 - 00:47:25:11
Speaker 3
However, y you can't you you may have a question as to whether or not the government was involved in Sandy Hook or you value. But for you to attack a parent of a kid who was murdered because you have.
00:47:25:23 - 00:47:27:15
Speaker 1
Never heard that victim's name.
00:47:28:18 - 00:47:33:18
Speaker 3
What I'm saying is that is different than.
00:47:33:24 - 00:47:36:02
Speaker 1
It would be like I didn't.
00:47:36:19 - 00:47:55:13
Speaker 3
Go to the party and now I'm getting and now I'm I'm not allowed to the party, you know what I mean? Like that. Those are two completely different things. And and that's why it's important to say there are cases that are worth evaluating with with a level head with, you know, with justice in mind not and that is a witch hunt on either side.
00:47:55:17 - 00:48:07:23
Speaker 3
But to say, like just because the left is overzealous about it, that it should never happen, it's like, well, sometimes it should happen because sometimes people are doing the wrong thing. Is that being misused? No. I mean, I think it's very obvious.
00:48:07:23 - 00:48:08:19
Speaker 2
But Adam, also.
00:48:09:04 - 00:48:29:23
Speaker 1
Before I get you on me in a second, I just I'm very involved in the Senator Mastriano campaign for governor in Pennsylvania. Been working on the campaign the whole time as a quasi official Jewish liaison to the to the campaign. Now, his opponent, Josh SHAPIRO, won't stop calling him an anti-Semite, even though I.
00:48:30:03 - 00:48:36:17
Speaker 3
Can't stop won't stop existing. Yeah, that happens to them.
00:48:36:18 - 00:48:46:09
Speaker 1
Is they they make these salacious stories, they write it. They call him an anti-Semite, a bigot. Is mastriano entitled now to sue the SHAPIRO campaign for damages?
00:48:47:08 - 00:49:05:07
Speaker 2
Again, you're asking in one sense, you're asking a very particular legal question. In another sense, I would say one should be able to I don't know what I don't know what the state the conditions for libel are in this country. I don't know the law in that way. So I'm going to completely, you know, plead the Fifth on that one.
00:49:05:07 - 00:49:14:07
Speaker 2
I don't know what the law is on if something is illegal to say, you know, I know that in the clear, the clear and present danger of what is a flailing and fire in the middle.
00:49:14:08 - 00:49:15:18
Speaker 1
Of the fire in a theater.
00:49:15:18 - 00:49:46:13
Speaker 2
You can't cause whatever I'm saying. So I don't know what the legality is. The question that I think what I think you have to realize and just be aware of Adam is like you conflict. You're conflating a couple of different things here. So is you're conflating the idea that political like censorship or the targeting of people and the regulations of of, you know, like you you can you can make a fair assessment that there's foul play going on in certain ways.
00:49:46:13 - 00:50:07:10
Speaker 2
But there's also a sense of not saying that just because something is politically incorrect doesn't make it okay to say like heinous, horrible things to people just because you can legally. That's what I'm trying to get at. And I was trying to clumsily get my way there. There are. It's possible Alex Jones said some horrible, heinous things that he should be held accountable for, not necessarily he should be thrown in jail for or maybe even press charges for.
00:50:07:10 - 00:50:08:16
Speaker 2
And you can hold both opinions.
00:50:08:16 - 00:50:13:01
Speaker 1
I think it's pretty clear that they want to take him off the air and that's what they're trying to do. Yeah.
00:50:13:02 - 00:50:13:06
Speaker 2
Yeah.
00:50:13:15 - 00:50:33:24
Speaker 1
But my second reason is for a 20 minute segment you might not want I'll tell you something, I watch Alex Jones every single day for 3 hours a day and he talks. There's some stories that he talks about all the time Hunter Biden, Jeffrey Epstein, all this stuff with vaccines and COVID, these are things he speaks about every single day.
00:50:34:21 - 00:50:47:07
Speaker 1
He spoke about Sandy Hook for a brief, brief moment and then it was a dead story. And it didn't even happen until years later after he apologized. He apologized six, six years ago.
00:50:47:15 - 00:50:48:12
Speaker 2
For not multiple.
00:50:48:12 - 00:50:55:18
Speaker 1
Segments that he was wrong. And I walked back his comments. Now, as The New York Times walked back, any comments? You know, I mean.
00:50:56:01 - 00:51:01:18
Speaker 3
What is what we're getting every day, which you caught up on Alex Jones right now? Honestly, what's.
00:51:01:18 - 00:51:01:20
Speaker 1
That?
00:51:01:20 - 00:51:23:01
Speaker 3
I think I think I think we should be talking about what I'm saying, which is the idea, not the Alex Jones specific thing like this isn't about him. Like we're getting caught up on him as a person. And I think there's a there's an underlying idea that, yeah, Adam I think like Amy brought up, it's important. I will say, well, I don't know if you want to move on here.
00:51:23:01 - 00:51:29:11
Speaker 3
I had a very interesting thing happen today that I realized that was a very California.
00:51:29:11 - 00:51:29:18
Speaker 1
Very.
00:51:30:00 - 00:51:45:03
Speaker 3
Discriminating, very discrimination thing. I was I was doing this sexual harassment course that I had to do for my job, not because I was told I needed to, you know, rebuff my high school interest and.
00:51:45:03 - 00:51:48:00
Speaker 1
They needed to go to and the well, that's.
00:51:48:01 - 00:52:18:20
Speaker 3
One of the questions. One of the questions was you are legally protected from discrimination against your sexual orientation, your religion, your race and your political views, your political views and all of the above. And I put all of the above, but you're not actually protected for your political views. You can be discriminated against for your political views in California.
00:52:18:20 - 00:52:20:01
Speaker 1
Oh, yeah. And we saw that.
00:52:20:13 - 00:52:21:05
Speaker 3
Well, I mean, are.
00:52:21:06 - 00:52:25:23
Speaker 2
We talking about your private, private, private businesses? What are we talking about?
00:52:25:23 - 00:52:26:22
Speaker 1
I mean, we got three big.
00:52:27:03 - 00:52:28:13
Speaker 3
This is kind of like this is just happening.
00:52:28:15 - 00:52:29:02
Speaker 1
Lose their.
00:52:29:02 - 00:52:29:17
Speaker 3
Job because my.
00:52:29:17 - 00:52:32:16
Speaker 1
Company had known other people their political feelings were.
00:52:34:01 - 00:52:47:10
Speaker 3
I mean a company with a California based education, you know, online thing and this is interesting. I just found that very, very interesting that you're legally able to be discriminated against for it and for.
00:52:47:10 - 00:53:04:22
Speaker 2
Holding opinions that the company doesn't like. I that doesn't surprise me at all. I mean, it doesn't surprise me like, yeah, those are things the argument being you can't control the other things. There are there are immutable what's the word characteristics that you're just born right. But one of them is is a particular temperament and position that you take.
00:53:05:01 - 00:53:23:22
Speaker 2
But Adam, one thing I have to point out is like when you bring up things like whenever I see a school shooting, I can't help but think the government might be involved. Sounds I don't know how you feel about this particular issue, but like that sounds to me very similar to when 911 truther say, hey, George Bush and Halliburton, these companies benefited from getting into the Iraq war.
00:53:23:22 - 00:53:40:05
Speaker 2
It's pretty clear that there must be a link to the government being involved in 911, causing the towers to come down. Or I see a lot of Jews in media. I see a lot of like these like, you know, Protocols of the Elders of Zion type ideas and then just jumping to these things. It doesn't mean that Democrats don't take advantage of this.
00:53:40:17 - 00:53:45:13
Speaker 2
Never mind. That's where you stand. Oh, God. Now it doesn't mean.
00:53:45:19 - 00:53:48:09
Speaker 4
Done with Adam on some of these things. I mean, every time I see this.
00:53:48:20 - 00:53:56:10
Speaker 1
I can't wait to see these. Amy It's so one of the building seven. So why can't I question that? Why is it that I was.
00:53:57:12 - 00:54:05:09
Speaker 2
You asking questions? You've already come to conclusions. You have a presumption that the government is involved. If you're asking honest questions, you should ask. But just the.
00:54:05:17 - 00:54:08:24
Speaker 1
Question for you, is the government involved in any of these things.
00:54:10:09 - 00:54:11:08
Speaker 2
Any of these.
00:54:11:08 - 00:54:26:01
Speaker 1
Things, any conspiracy? 911 School shootings. Is our government, are they puritanical with us? Are they good to us always? Do we trust our government all the time. And our 87,000 additional IRS agent.
00:54:26:01 - 00:54:46:17
Speaker 3
I'll answer is kind of like Tom telling our science. Our our government is here to govern. And in the governing and the governing of the people, it's important to keep the governance well governed, because when you govern, there are governors and governance is exactly right.
00:54:46:17 - 00:54:47:08
Speaker 2
That's that's.
00:54:47:11 - 00:54:48:05
Speaker 3
Our government.
00:54:48:22 - 00:54:50:00
Speaker 1
And I don't.
00:54:50:00 - 00:55:00:11
Speaker 4
Trust our government. I think. 911 Shadi I think the pandemic should anything. I like them, but it's a bunch of school shootings or potentially false flags and you know, but that's that's, you know, and we should have the right to at least speak about it without.
00:55:00:11 - 00:55:01:03
Speaker 1
That for sure.
00:55:01:15 - 00:55:10:07
Speaker 2
And you should have the right to face and abide by the same token face, judgment and scrutiny. If you say things that might be have no basis in reality or evidence. I'm not saying.
00:55:10:17 - 00:55:12:12
Speaker 4
But but but but but on every everyone.
00:55:12:12 - 00:55:13:05
Speaker 2
Has a doing.
00:55:13:14 - 00:55:13:21
Speaker 4
Everything.
00:55:14:09 - 00:55:31:03
Speaker 2
If you're going to make a claim, the onus is also on you. Is the government squeaky clean? Of course not. Does it? Are some conspiracies turn out to be true? Yes, that does happen. But that's a very different line of thinking than correlation causation. Hey, it's very dangerous to say I see a lot of this. Therefore this must be true.
00:55:31:07 - 00:55:36:08
Speaker 2
Just like I don't know. Adam, what do the Protocols of the Elders of Zion have? Some merit. They're just asking.
00:55:36:08 - 00:55:49:02
Speaker 1
Questions. You know what? I'm still waiting for my membership I deserve. Let's be real. If there's one person who deserves to be in the Elders of Zion and I'm speaking to you, Chairman, you send me my invitation, damn it.
00:55:49:11 - 00:55:51:10
Speaker 2
I'm just saying, like I'm with you.
00:55:51:14 - 00:55:51:21
Speaker 4
I think.
00:55:51:21 - 00:55:55:03
Speaker 2
I think needs to be a standard. There needs to be some kind of know.
00:55:55:08 - 00:56:17:24
Speaker 4
And I agree with you on that. I think that causation is not correlation. That whole phrase makes sense. I think sine scientific method is important and all that kind of stuff. So it doesn't. But that that said, I think a lot of times when a lot of pieces are in place that might lead to scientific method and you're not even allowed to talk about those, that's when you start going, okay, maybe there is an intentional suppression of the actual information that could be blatantly leading to that too.
00:56:17:24 - 00:56:22:05
Speaker 2
And it comes from the left too. You saw it with Koven and a lot of questions that needed to be.
00:56:22:18 - 00:56:27:00
Speaker 1
Squashed than any conspiracies. The left trust the government indiscriminately.
00:56:27:11 - 00:56:40:12
Speaker 2
But the one thing that conservative ideas that have merit, the conservative idea that we shouldn't take it for granted, that you can say, Oh, America, shady. It's like, yeah, compared to what? Like in terms of what country you would rather live in. That's one of the I'm not I'm not just doing, you know, conservative.
00:56:40:23 - 00:56:45:11
Speaker 1
On that on me. I'm being honest with you. I would rather be nowhere but America. And that says I'm America.
00:56:45:11 - 00:56:47:18
Speaker 4
I'm an America that's loving, you know, American.
00:56:47:21 - 00:56:48:23
Speaker 2
Yeah. So I'm just saying, like.
00:56:49:00 - 00:56:49:14
Speaker 1
You talk about me.
00:56:49:14 - 00:56:55:14
Speaker 4
I'm not I'm not considering the media America. I'm considering information beyond that's beyond that's a global thing. I think that's.
00:56:55:14 - 00:56:57:18
Speaker 2
Talking about the deep state, folks. Very deep.
00:56:58:05 - 00:57:01:23
Speaker 4
Now we're talking I think this is a global fight on an American thing. This is all over the place.
00:57:01:23 - 00:57:02:18
Speaker 1
Joe Biden yet.
00:57:04:05 - 00:57:29:05
Speaker 2
Not really and not something I'm happy with. But there's a little bit of a look. That is what we're doing because America's there's nine, there's there's 11 and nine. There's lots of elevens and numbers. There's planes and they're flying around. And that's what we're doing. We're flying around here. Look, look, number one. Number one, you're making a claim is there's no other you raise preposterous claim.
00:57:30:06 - 00:57:31:18
Speaker 3
That was way too sensical.
00:57:32:01 - 00:57:34:08
Speaker 1
Ever heard of the president ism now?
00:57:34:09 - 00:57:37:20
Speaker 2
71, because we're going to get back to you guys.
00:57:37:23 - 00:58:00:03
Speaker 1
I want to pivot a little bit making way to this, by the way. I appreciate this conversation. I appreciate the back and forth on conspiracy. This is something that that, you know, we have to have this conversation if, you know, there's a reason why conspiracy is a federal felony and that it's a crime, it's a crime to commit a conspiracy.
00:58:00:12 - 00:58:18:14
Speaker 1
So when people go around and they say, are you a conspiracy theorist that's only aiding and abetting criminals, that type of behavior, if somebody makes a valid claim, like why, then why did Building seven fall down the brick buildings that were next door that were 200 years old? Why didn't they fall down if the earth was was shaking?
00:58:18:14 - 00:58:39:24
Speaker 1
Building seven was built to survive, to survive a plane crash. All the buildings there were built to survive. How to building seven four down and it was the one with the gold vault underneath. That's a little bit strange to me. I'm allowed to question that without having the the the my opposition say that I'm just a crazy conspiracy theorists or ivermectin.
00:58:39:24 - 00:58:50:04
Speaker 4
Obviously, like ivermectin has been literally one of the most amazing things to help people for like the last year and a half. And we had we had we had to have underground protocols to help people that actually had COVID get.
00:58:50:04 - 00:58:51:12
Speaker 1
It from overseas. You couldn't with.
00:58:51:12 - 00:59:04:05
Speaker 4
Help. We've helped a lot of our crew, a lot of our medical crew people and connected with in Texas have literally helped hundreds of thousands of people and weren't allowed to talk about it publicly. But it literally was with Ivermectin, which was called a horse dorm room, which is clearly not, you know, things like that.
00:59:04:05 - 00:59:24:24
Speaker 1
Yeah. Yeah. That is every single show. I mean, how could Rachel MADDOW be so such an idiot and everybody had so much DNC to go around and say that over and over again? You're not going to take a horse or horse medicine, are you, when it clearly has a human to human brands and human applications. You know.
00:59:25:08 - 01:00:05:02
Speaker 3
I mean, I think I think it's pretty simple. It's like respect, you know what I mean? Like you're allowed to question whatever the hell you want about 911 on this. But what I notice is the do question. Well, no, no, no, no, no, no. Well, that's that's a that's a different like systemic corporate issue. I think the issue is and this goes back again to talking about being accountable on both sides of the coin is like just because you don't believe in vaccines or you think that there is a government interference or government play into this, all of a sudden the people that did die completely innocently are completely forgotten about in the agenda of
01:00:05:03 - 01:00:30:00
Speaker 3
whatever political talking points you on social media or they on news media want to talk about, and they completely like just, you know, sweep it under the rug. And they're like, oh, 3000 people died. Maybe there's a government behind it and maybe, you know, it's like, oh, something don't matter. And that's that's to me where I think that happens on both sides, where it's like, now anyone who takes a vaccine is an idiot or a pussy or this.
01:00:30:00 - 01:00:49:05
Speaker 3
And it's like, well, no, like a lot of people had completely legitimate say no. So so what I'm saying is it's just like it goes from maybe there's a gray area to. No, no, no, I'm here and you're there. There's nothing in between. And why should we even talk about it? Because, you know, you're an idiot and I'm just dumb even trying to listen to you to explain.
01:00:49:06 - 01:00:56:08
Speaker 3
It's like, No, no, every issue should be looked at as an issue, maybe, or dismissed, but can't. Just like it's not non-binary.
01:00:56:08 - 01:01:03:07
Speaker 4
People get lose. We get lost in binary. When there's nuance, there's every single thing has infinite, infinite shades of detail on that.
01:01:03:07 - 01:01:04:21
Speaker 2
Yeah. Sorry.
01:01:04:21 - 01:01:07:02
Speaker 4
That's about. That's about it. Just, just the whole binary thing.
01:01:07:17 - 01:01:29:15
Speaker 2
Yeah. On the point of nuance, I mean, the confirmation bias you have to watch out for is, is pretty apparent, for example, when you're talking about something like IV or like something about when we were talking about 911, which was such an unprecedented event, there's going to be all sorts of phenomena that seem that seem very curious and raise a lot of questions.
01:01:29:15 - 01:01:50:07
Speaker 2
But it was also such an unprecedented event that we have nothing to compare to. There's going to be all sorts of strange things that have happened around it. Ivermectin has been around for 40 some odd years, treated people safely, and so suspicion and of policy is valid in some cases. And in some cases it's less valid or I mean, you can still have the suspicion, but it's less credible.
01:01:50:15 - 01:02:03:13
Speaker 2
So it doesn't mean so it's not like it's one position. I'm just suspicious of all things government tells me or all government events, it's like, Well, then you're not being honest with yourself. It's like Ivermectin calling it horse de Wormer. Obviously nonsensical checking.
01:02:03:15 - 01:02:10:00
Speaker 1
The government starts telling me something. I start questioning its legitimacy, especially when the government's trying to sell me something.
01:02:11:02 - 01:02:16:05
Speaker 2
I understand, but. But, but. It's apples and oranges in some cases where they're so not comparable.
01:02:16:09 - 01:02:24:16
Speaker 1
And so these are all great points. I want to pick one subject that I want to talk to you about, and we're running out of time. And I really wanted to get to this.
01:02:25:18 - 01:02:42:12
Speaker 3
I just have one really funny thing before you introduce. I just thought of, you know, I don't have a great TV network. I think the White House should have their own infomercial network where they're just trying to sell you whatever the most recent bullshit, right. Policy or product or government agency they're just trying to convince you is actually doing a good job.
01:02:42:22 - 01:02:47:01
Speaker 3
I think that would be a great way. C-SPAN meets Lifetime TV Network.
01:02:47:11 - 01:02:56:01
Speaker 2
Hello, I'm Dr. Anthony Fauci. And I want to talk about severe weather now and try for your five month trial.
01:02:57:11 - 01:02:59:11
Speaker 1
Does it work? Okay, guys.
01:03:00:08 - 01:03:02:18
Speaker 4
I'm glad you got my message. I got I got to dip in a sec.
01:03:03:00 - 01:03:03:09
Speaker 1
Okay.
01:03:03:09 - 01:03:05:14
Speaker 2
What easy boosters of 1099.
01:03:05:20 - 01:03:30:15
Speaker 1
We're going to finish up really soon. I just want to share the screen really quick. The queen's funeral. But is this a sign Biden sits 14 rows back at Queen Elizabeth's funeral? This picture right here, is this a sign of America in decline? Look at him all the way in the back. When have you ever not seen a president of the United States in this very front row at any world event?
01:03:30:15 - 01:03:43:01
Speaker 1
And we're going to close on this. And I want the panel to everybody have a final, final thought, and then we'll close because people got to hop off and we'll start with you, Zach. What's your thoughts on this?
01:03:44:18 - 01:03:49:07
Speaker 3
I mean, he made it to his state or to a state that's pretty good.
01:03:50:15 - 01:03:51:23
Speaker 1
For him that he actually you know.
01:03:52:13 - 01:03:53:11
Speaker 3
Yeah, I.
01:03:53:11 - 01:03:56:22
Speaker 1
Put him in the back. Back the bathroom in the middle of the ceremony.
01:03:57:17 - 01:04:18:01
Speaker 3
Yeah, well, my bet in Vegas was 50 vaccine. Why make it so I lost this money. But no, I mean, it's pretty frickin obvious. Well, I think the world right now is going down a scary path, like Europe is in a scary place without power. And, you know, real, real, real things are happening. So it isn't trivial at all.
01:04:18:01 - 01:04:35:11
Speaker 3
I don't think it's really hard without leadership. And it's really sad that we went through three elections in a row with, you know, I'm not going to say Trump was a bad president, but he wasn't the best leader of the entire country, you know, and we were left with him, Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden, for the last 12 years.
01:04:35:11 - 01:04:59:19
Speaker 3
And it's like it's hard because so inundated with media that it's unfortunate that people do give these leaders are so much like, you know agency over their own lives because they really shouldn't have any. But this is the saying. I mean, we have to figure who doesn't know what's going on. And worse, his vice president is is is scarier because she kind of knows what's going on but doesn't know how to do anything about it.
01:05:00:03 - 01:05:10:06
Speaker 3
And it's like, so yeah, they're like, yeah, let's just put them in the back. They're not going to say anything. Trump would have just walked up to the front and kissed the open casket. I would have been like, I missed it. You're such a.
01:05:10:06 - 01:05:11:10
Speaker 1
Good guy, really, to grab.
01:05:11:10 - 01:05:12:10
Speaker 2
The open casket.
01:05:12:10 - 01:05:22:19
Speaker 1
But he grabbed the casket right by the wooden handles. Deepak, what are your what is your thought seeing that picture, does that make you feel that America is in decline?
01:05:23:18 - 01:05:36:24
Speaker 4
I mean, I don't really make that much meaning out of certain things like that. I mean, I look at each leader has a different level of energy and power. I look at, you know, Trump as someone who had a lot of charisma, a lot of energy. And so I don't see him doing that. I see him being more of a front kind of person.
01:05:36:24 - 01:05:53:15
Speaker 4
I see Biden is more of like a kind of a shadow puppet and kind of walking dead kind of guy who's not necessarily like making his own clear thoughts. It is what it is. And like, kind of the joke that Zach said, the fact they made two assists, you know, a miracle. So, you know, but I don't really think of that as like a big a big he got to make a huge meaning out of that.
01:05:53:15 - 01:06:02:11
Speaker 4
Just one image. I think there's other things that we can use to make meaning about what's going on. But I wouldn't necessarily go to I wouldn't get too deep on that image necessarily myself.
01:06:02:22 - 01:06:04:17
Speaker 1
I Amy, your thoughts?
01:06:04:20 - 01:06:37:20
Speaker 2
I'd have to agree with Deepak on that. Mainly because maybe a few years ago I would have been like all about yeah. Piling on on that point. But respectfully, there is there's this conversation that's going on as to why we're so divided, why are people not able to talk to each other? And I recently turn on Fox News like, like this morning for the first time in years and you start to see how a lot of these conversations, you know, in the age of podcasts when people are having actual conversations and Rogan's the most popular podcast podcaster and 11 million listeners are tuning in for long form in-depth conversations.
01:06:38:01 - 01:06:58:17
Speaker 2
You start to see that you can have a really good point to be made that gets that gets muddied by like focusing in on on stuff that maybe is tongue in cheek and silly. It could be very true. America is in decline in that Biden is and it is true like you, there's a lot of weakness in Biden and and I think there are substantive cases to be made for that.
01:06:58:17 - 01:07:15:06
Speaker 2
But when you point to pictures like this, if I'm taking it as a serious point, it means that anyone you're trying to persuade won't take you seriously. Because then it's like when you watch Fox and HANNITY goes, Obama golfing again for, you know, it's like, is that the issue or is that just like a distractive point you're making?
01:07:15:06 - 01:07:34:22
Speaker 2
It's a point to to point out real critiques and real criticisms and also the refusal to give credit where it is due. And I'm not I'm not here about to give Biden credit for anything. I'm just saying that if you focus on these things and we're not clear that we're being tongue in cheek and funny about people, we lose credibility with anyone who's maybe able to dialog with us in a constructive way.
01:07:34:24 - 01:07:57:11
Speaker 2
And we've lost that ability to have constructive conversations around real issues. And and I know it's fun to have these committee conversations and I'm all about it, but I just think it's also something to be aware of that one of the reasons the conversation and the dialog between different people and the marketplace of ideas is so in decline and toxic is because, you know we're mimicking each other to the point to to to oblivion.
01:07:57:15 - 01:08:10:13
Speaker 4
Because then we're like looking for something to point the finger about versus actually having a real conversation is like now we're like looking to be blaming people and that's not where you want to be. You want to be on the like again, like we talked about, you want to give credit where credit's due and you want to hold accountability where accountability is due.
01:08:10:13 - 01:08:15:01
Speaker 4
But if you start like just looking to blame when it becomes one sided, then you're doing the same thing they're doing, you know.
01:08:15:10 - 01:08:38:06
Speaker 1
Yeah. And to give credit where credit is due, I want to say even though she does it for the most selfish purposes ever, you know, she doesn't want to lose or investments in Taiwan. I do think at certain points, Nancy Pelosi did did impress me a little bit with her pushing back on Taiwan on the Taiwan Taiwanese issue, a little bit stroking the war of the war with China.
01:08:38:06 - 01:08:48:07
Speaker 1
And I would have been much more comfortable if Trump pushed the war with China. But nonetheless, I give credit where credit is due, and I think that's a very fair point.
01:08:49:05 - 01:08:57:24
Speaker 2
Yeah. I mean, you follow that stuff more closely, but I just think in general, the image. Yeah. Is this the sign that America is in decline? Probably not. But that is certainly a conversation.
01:08:57:24 - 01:08:58:07
Speaker 3
Well, we're.
01:08:58:23 - 01:09:07:17
Speaker 2
Happening. And when we point to this, I only my only concern is that people see that point being made and be like, you guys are not you guys are just looking for anything to support a perspective.
01:09:07:17 - 01:09:17:04
Speaker 1
I do think that Benny Johnson, I think looks for anything is I watch his Instagram he'll pull out these things are you never believe what Biden said and it's right that's.
01:09:17:04 - 01:09:20:13
Speaker 3
How people get that's how people get clickbait. Yeah. Yeah.
01:09:20:16 - 01:09:40:16
Speaker 1
All right, guys, I'm going to wrap this up on this was a great show. You guys are all welcome back on. We could continue the same exact panel, the three of you guys. We could go deeper again. But we only have about an hour segment. I want to point everybody out where they can find you. And then because we have such a talented musician with Deepak, I'm going to allow Deepak to play us out on a on a on a on a brilliant clip.
01:09:40:16 - 01:09:44:13
Speaker 1
So if the panel. Amy, where can people find you?
01:09:46:02 - 01:10:03:18
Speaker 2
You can follow me at Infowars. You can follow me at AJ Dash comedy Instagram a.k.a Amy Kozak Official on Instagram YouTube Tik Tok I have a band called Distant Cousins. We also make a lot of music and, have a lot of fun right now.
01:10:03:18 - 01:10:07:13
Speaker 1
Should avoid robot nature, distant cousins, that unbelievable band.
01:10:07:13 - 01:10:10:18
Speaker 3
Right here and distant cousins. Yeah, I know. I know. You guys are scarce. I know.
01:10:10:18 - 01:10:20:22
Speaker 2
So you can follow me there. I'm also the host of the Buckle Up podcast with Mike and Amy, where we do similar things to this, having conversations and having having a good time.
01:10:20:22 - 01:10:22:16
Speaker 1
Where can they find the Buckle Up podcast.
01:10:22:21 - 01:10:26:17
Speaker 2
And buckle up pod on Instagram, YouTube and Tik Tok.
01:10:26:19 - 01:10:31:18
Speaker 1
Zach Ration is famous director writer where can find you.
01:10:33:03 - 01:10:51:16
Speaker 3
You can check out my movie Knife Core on Amazon Prime and that's like Knife Corporation. It's a fun, ridiculous horror movie. Otherwise I've got a couple other projects coming, but they are large in scale and will take time, so can't really talk about it. But I think if I'm in L.A. sometimes beach volleyball.
01:10:52:01 - 01:10:57:22
Speaker 1
And Deepak and what's robot nature, what's on the horizon for robot nature only shows.
01:10:58:03 - 01:11:10:09
Speaker 4
It's just a feature, man. There is no robot nature. Again, it is deep creature. I am solo. You can find me at Deepak future spell deep arc future if you go to robot nature that comment well forward to Deepak future.
01:11:11:10 - 01:11:16:23
Speaker 1
From the old man and robot it is robot.
01:11:16:23 - 01:11:18:05
Speaker 4
Pass robot.
01:11:18:05 - 01:11:41:07
Speaker 1
Based on that note I am going to play out a video from Deepak Future. And again, my name is Adam King. Thank you, everybody, for coming in to the Adam King show. This is a really great show. Thank our great guests, Amy Kodak, Zach, Gretchen and Deepak, Grandpa Ian. Thank you, everybody. 5 minutes.
01:11:41:19 - 01:11:45:08
Speaker 5
But I like to bring to the stage right now to talk to the.
01:11:49:14 - 01:11:57:21
Speaker 1
Put your arms in the sky to freedom. La la la la la la la.
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Speaker 5
It's not my thing that you got. It's not there ain't nothing down. She I swear to God it was just for me. Baby story said he said he t shirt now it's his movie I'm going. It's always a big story. He said face to face. You take shot. I'm guilty. My name is. He saw me story when he was making TV shows and we take five and it's always been slow place getting to to take a chance this is who we are.
01:13:34:20 - 01:13:41:11
Speaker 5
Make some noise watching us. We wanted to thank you all so much.
01:13:41:11 - 01:13:47:16
Speaker 1
Make some noise for the Adam King show. Adam Killer. Thank you, everybody. Goodnight.
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Speaker 2
Goodnight.